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Maxwell was picked because of the factional nature of the Collingwood list...Maxwell was seen as middle ground for the Ratpackers and the others like Dawes, Jolly, Cloke, Pendlebury etc.....not everyone loved each other at Collingwood, thats from a Collingwood staffer at the time...
I presume Harley at Geelong was the same given he was a well spoken but average neutral type of player.......
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(01-23-2018, 07:44 AM)shawny link Wrote:Exactly. Hence why I never quite get it why so many of us arm chair critics say Murphy is not 'tough enough' to be captain and we should have player A player B etc casue they would be better at it then Murphy.
The guy is entering his 6th year as captain and has held it under 3 coaches.......with 40 players on the list he must be ok at the job despite what us supporters say at times.
Being a small framed player i think he cops it unfairly a bit when we are struggling and is an easy target but at the end of the day the players and coaches who see 40 players nearly every day have selected him over the past 5 years and they must know more about it then us who watch for 2 hours on game day.
Stop it Shawny. We don't tolerate common sense around here.
Although one could quibble with the 3 coaches voting on Murphy - for the 5 minutes that Barker was coach, I doubt he was worried either way.
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Murphy should remain the man and by some distance.
Lets get the kids into their 3rd or 4th year before we make them the prime focus of the opposition.
imho, Murphy has dealt with the attention he gets on and off the field like..........a leader!
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(01-23-2018, 08:22 AM)LP link Wrote:Murphy should remain the man and by some distance.
Lets get the kids into their 3rd or 4th year before we make them the prime focus of the opposition.
imho, Murphy has dealt with the attention he gets on and off the field like..........a leader! Well said LP
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(01-23-2018, 07:53 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Maxwell was picked because of the factional nature of the Collingwood list...Maxwell was seen as middle ground for the Ratpackers and the others like Dawes, Jolly, Cloke, Pendlebury etc.....not everyone loved each other at Collingwood, thats from a Collingwood staffer at the time...
I presume Harley at Geelong was the same given he was a well spoken but average neutral type of player.......
...and it'd be the same at every team out there. Which is why its important to pick a captain that everyone can talk to and not alienate anyway by choosing the 'wrong' captain.
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(01-23-2018, 07:37 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Which I guess means that Mick and Bolts both want / wanted Murph as captain.
Rumour has it that Mick wanted someone else (Simmo? Carrazzo??) but was overruled by the powers that be. Murphy was more 'marketable' from memory.
Didn't agree with the call at the time, but now i think he's the best man for the job with who is available in 2018 and beyond.
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(01-23-2018, 07:53 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Maxwell was picked because of the factional nature of the Collingwood list...Maxwell was seen as middle ground for the Ratpackers and the others like Dawes, Jolly, Cloke, Pendlebury etc.....not everyone loved each other at Collingwood, thats from a Collingwood staffer at the time...
I presume Harley at Geelong was the same given he was a well spoken but average neutral type of player....... Maybe so, but geez they jelled well as a unit. Yin-Yang, Bad Boys-Good Boys, need the right mix of both perhaps?
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(01-23-2018, 09:41 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Maybe so, but geez they jelled well as a unit. Yin-Yang, Bad Boys-Good Boys, need the right mix of both perhaps?
Whatever issues I have with MM at Carlton, the Pies 2011 season was sensational. 20 wins, 2 losses, 167.66%. That's what I'd like to see from us.
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(01-23-2018, 09:39 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Rumour has it that Mick wanted someone else (Simmo? Carrazzo??) but was overruled by the powers that be. Murphy was more 'marketable' from memory.
Didn't agree with the call at the time, but now i think he's the best man for the job with who is available in 2018 and beyond.
There's always rumours. Given his standing in the game, and the importance of the captain, I would have thought MM would make it a condition of his employment that he gets to choose the Captain.
Some people on this planet know the truth. Nobody on here unfortunately.
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