Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

[flyboy77]

Did we ever confirm who got Ed Curnow back when?

[LP]

Did we ever confirm who got Ed Curnow back when?

I heard it was friendly fire, a backhander from a team-mate.

But who cares, even if it wasn't Dusty he's still guilty of it several times a quarter.

How can the game's authorities allow one player to do this so blatantly while penalising all others?

[kruddler]

Finding a way to win is the sign of a good team. A team that has just won a flag is never "not that good." Whether you perceive them as blue chip or blue collar is not relevant.

If they have as many plonkers, plodders and b-graders as some suggest, then their recent flag entitles them to more respect, not less.

When a team with too much talent wins a flag, that gets poo-pooed because well, of course they're going to win with so many A graders - even I could coach team X to a flag with that talent. When a team of plonkers win a flag, then it's because they got lucky, competition was average, GF opponent had an off day etc.

Winning a flag is incredibly hard. Any team that does so is very good. Period.

While i don't disagree with the majority of what you wrote, i think you (and some others) have missed the major reason the Tigers won the flag.

They had basically ZERO injuries all year.

Cotchin (25)
Martin (25)
Grigg (25)
Rance (25)
Rioli (25)
Astbury (25)
Castagna (25)
Ellis (25)
Grimes (25)
Nankervis (24)
Lambert (24)
McIntosh (24)
Riewoldt (23)
Butler (23)
Caddy (22)
Prestia (22)
Houli (21)* Missed games because of suspension for KO'ing Lamb from memory
Edwards (20)


That is 18 players that played 20 or more games from their grandfinal side. Half of them, played all 25!
Doing the maths, it means that only 4 players from their Grand Final side played less than 20 games for the year.


That is simply unheard of.

So yes, they got lucky.....because they didn't get any injuries!

[LP]

It would be interesting to see how other teams faired.

But nobody can question Nthmond's 2017 luck and be taken seriously, but they have to worry about it, they have the trophy!

[DJC]

Did we ever confirm who got Ed Curnow back when?

Cotchin’s name seems to crop up quite a bit but I don’t think anyone has been named as the culprit and I don’t know of anyone who claims to have seen the incident.  As LP suggests, it could well have been friendly fire.

If it was Martin, Cotchin or another Richmond player, we’re not a club who would whinge about it.

[PaulP]

While i don't disagree with the majority of what you wrote, i think you (and some others) have missed the major reason the Tigers won the flag.

They had basically ZERO injuries all year.

Cotchin (25)
Martin (25)
Grigg (25)
Rance (25)
Rioli (25)
Astbury (25)
Castagna (25)
Ellis (25)
Grimes (25)
Nankervis (24)
Lambert (24)
McIntosh (24)
Riewoldt (23)
Butler (23)
Caddy (22)
Prestia (22)
Houli (21)* Missed games because of suspension for KO'ing Lamb from memory
Edwards (20)


That is 18 players that played 20 or more games from their grandfinal side. Half of them, played all 25!
Doing the maths, it means that only 4 players from their Grand Final side played less than 20 games for the year.


That is simply unheard of.

So yes, they got lucky.....because they didn't get any injuries!

No doubt. Most teams that win a flag need luck of one type or another. They certainly had a great run with injuries. The real question that is impossible to answer is how big a role did that lack of injuries play ? The Dogs won in 2016 with a bad run of injuries : Murphy, Johannisen, Adams, McLean, Wallis, Redpath, Morris, Stringer, Dahlhaus and Libba, were either out for the season or out at various points.

I guess when it's your time............

[northernblue]

I got sick of reading about who smashed Ed’s larynx so I’ve just watched the game focusing on Ed...
I think Ed got his larynx smashed when he was out on the piss after the game.
With 1min remaining in the 4/4 Nankervis got a free kick for holding at the top of the goal square and Ed was running into frame, and @ 30 sec remaining he was providing an option in the back pocket...
He seemed to be running and breathing just fine.
I saw nothing in the earlier part of the game that suggested any sort of heavy knock.

[DJC]

From the Hun, 31 July 2017:

CARLTON coach Brendon Bolton has called Ed Curnow’s parents to explain a move to send him back onto the field with an injured larynx.

Curnow is in danger of missing the rest of the season after suffering the bruised larynx in the Round 14 loss to Richmond.

Carlton has confirmed the tagger is still experiencing difficulty talking during activity.

Curnow sought medical treatment on the interchange bench after receiving a blow to the throat and was permitted to return to the field for a short period.

He went to hospital that night.

And from Ed himself:

“It’s probably the strangest injury I’ve had in my career,” he said.

“I got a tiny elbow to my neck playing against Richmond in the first minute.

I got sick of reading about who smashed Ed’s larynx so I’ve just watched the game focusing on Ed...

You could have saved yourself some time and just studied the first minute 

It looks like Martin threw an elbow back after Ed tackled him to the ground.  Pretty innocuous, but that’s all it takes.

[LP]

Dimma has just won himself a new deal.

I'm tipping in 16.20 days from right now they'll be calling for his sacking on talk back radio! ;D

[kruddler]

No doubt. Most teams that win a flag need luck of one type or another. They certainly had a great run with injuries. The real question that is impossible to answer is how big a role did that lack of injuries play ? The Dogs won in 2016 with a bad run of injuries : Murphy, Johannisen, Adams, McLean, Wallis, Redpath, Morris, Stringer, Dahlhaus and Libba, were either out for the season or out at various points.

I guess when it's your time............

Thats the real question? Seriously??

Umm....it helped them greatly? Not changing a side week to week is an advantage. Never having your best players out of the side is obviously a huge advantage.

I'd hazard a guess and say there is not team in recent history that even comes close to that kind of dream run with injuries.