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(11-30-2017, 08:06 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree...Bolton will be the fall guy if the SOS drafting program fails.....SOS has a buddy in the Prez and being a hero of the club will give him some bambi credits..
re: Riccuito ...will be the mayor of Adelaide if they win the flag, if they feck up again he will look for a few soft targets to blame...
The harsh reality is that in some respects the SOS drafting program has been an exercise in compromise. In the past two seasons we went after and failed to get: Tomlinson, Kelly, Rockliff, Smith, Lynch, Saad and maybe another 'name' or two... We were told that in 2017 we would attract and secure a marquee player - didn't happen. None of the blokes we settled on were tried and true winners like the before mentioned. So SOS can hardly say to BB that he's given him A graders to work with... he's given him potential and maybe's. Fingers crossed for 2018.
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(11-30-2017, 08:11 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I would agree finishing higher is a mandatory requirement but losing Gibbs and Docherty probably gives the football dept an out clause if that doesnt happen.....not sure we can kick enough goals
to win significantly more games..
Our drafting was more future based and I think the trade period was handy but may struggle to cover both Gibbs and Docherty..I'm not sold on players like Dow/Obrien being walk up impact players..
Oh I agree on the season overall EB. But specifically our last 8-10 games in both the last 2 seasons have been poor from a results perspective. I could handle say 6-8 wins, if it was 3-4 in the 1st half and the same in the 2nd half.
I also think that Doc and GIbbs are soft excuses, but agree they will be played if it happens.
The reality is that our young player were probably at 50-60% of what they will be like at 25 last year year and this year every one of them should be increasing that to 65-70%. As such that growth across the starting 18 should more than cover both of the players. In essence we should still be a better team without Gibbs and Doc. Not better than we would be if both were playing for us, but better than we were last year.
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At some point there comes a time when supporters start to say "enough is enough"
I'm actually surprised the goodwill has lasted this long.
This squad is set up to the point where a lack of improvement in both ladder position and wins should not be acceptable if we're on the right track.
It doesn't have to be dramatic but it has to be apparent.
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Side finished 16th with a percentage of 78, lost two of its best 4-5 players (and 2 leaders in a young team thin on leadership), I just can't see how we can win more games in 2018. I'm expecting bottom 3, with 5-6 wins. Upward trajectory should start in 2019
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(11-30-2017, 09:28 AM)Jack Burton link Wrote:Side finished 16th with a percentage of 78, lost two of its best 4-5 players (and 2 leaders in a young team thin on leadership), I just can't see how we can win more games in 2018. I'm expecting bottom 3, with 5-6 wins. Upward trajectory should start in 2019
Yes, generally agree. A lot of the kids really need to come on in leaps and bounds to win several more than last year. Possible, but not likely IMO. Those Friday night games should really be a hoot.
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(11-30-2017, 05:00 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Finals Yep, nuffs enuff. No limits, have to aim for finals. May not get there but it has to be the aim and they need to claw, bite and scratch their way to them. Heck I'd aim to win the farken thing. Why not? Time for us to change our attitude and reset OUR goals. As Obama said, "Yes we can".
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(11-30-2017, 03:40 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Hopefully we win 8/9 games and become a side that other teams dread lining up against. I think we started that this year TBH, IMO no way teams enjoyed playing us.
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(11-30-2017, 05:53 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I don't see that happening, at least not next year. If we have another year like 2017, those three are still very safe, even if there is a challenge. My guess, observing at a distance, is that SOS is the most powerful person at the club. He's worked himself into a similar position to Riccuto, except SOS actually does something useful. I reckon he is the most important, not the most powerful. If he nails his job, even I could coach them to a premiership. If he was to perform at the levels of the morons before him, Jesus Christ couldn't coach them to a win let alone a flag.
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(11-30-2017, 10:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I think we started that this year TBH, IMO no way teams enjoyed playing us.
To a degree GTC but I want them to be dreading our attacking style and swift ball movement on top of our tough defence. 
Reality always wins in the end.
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Competitiveness.
- for selection in the NB's, seniors, AFLW
- during each and every game, from start to finish
- in the AFL marketplace = more $$
- within the staff group, thus giving 100% every day
Cohesion - prez to cleaner, and everyone in between
Oh, and my wish rather than expectation, win the AFLW flag
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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