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Thryleon, the old saying is that all evil needs to prevail is for good men to do nothing. And the conservatives are saying good men can do nothing to stop evil. Interesting juxtaposition there.
Of course, the conservatives have a way of dealing with it. Prayer. For instance, did you know you can pray the gay away? It's that simple!
But Pat Robertson is onto something. Disrespecting POTUS, the court system and institutions of Government creates havoc. Except when Trump promoted the birther movement to delegitimise Obama, said Judge Curiel couldn't judge him because he was Mexican and tries to ride roughshod over Congress. Because that's different.
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(10-04-2017, 11:48 AM)Mav link Wrote:The Hotel's windows couldn't be opened. That's why the shooter knocked holes in them, apparently with a hammer-type object he brought with him. The holes were clearly visible in photos and video taken after the shooting. AFAIK, no other smashed windows were observed. That puts that issue to bed, doesn't it?
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I'm open to suggestions. But the reporting so far does allege that the hotel's windows couldn't be opened. Given many guests might lose the shirts off their backs in the gaming areas, that's probably a wise decision.
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(10-04-2017, 11:48 AM)Mav link Wrote:The Hotel's windows couldn't be opened. That's why the shooter knocked holes in them, apparently with a hammer-type object he brought with him. The holes were clearly visible in photos and video taken after the shooting. AFAIK, no other smashed windows were observed. That puts that issue to bed, doesn't it?
Not really Mav, wasn't there a grassy knoll nearby?
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From what I understand, this shooter must have been extremely skilled to have killed and wounded 573 people at a distance of 400 or so yards in the time alleged by the police? Be interested to see how this unfolds.
Reality always wins in the end.
He had lots of bullets...and he was firing them pretty fast.
I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories.
For mass events too many people would have to be in on them...and some would surely talk.
People guess and propose theories....but nothing has been proved (moon landing, 9/11)...just questions asked.
In this case what would
a) Be the purpose of a cover up/conspiracy?
b) Why target C&W fans?
c) Why would "more than one shooter" be kept quiet...if there's another mad-man out there surely that would be important to know?
d) With a number of agencies involved in the investigation which is the alleged "holder back of information"...because you cant have an official cover-up without officials being involved?
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I don't know.
I just share what I have seen.
The questions are a bit wrong though Lods.
Its not about what is to gain from this being a hoax. The question is, what is going on elsewhere that this needs to bump off the paper.
Like I said, Ive seen the flashes and heard the audio. It could be explained by someone taking photos, or perhaps someone else firing back up at the shooter and the audio could be an echo, but odds are we will never know any different.
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(10-04-2017, 11:00 PM)Lods link Wrote:He had lots of bullets...and he was firing them pretty fast.
I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories.
For mass events too many people would have to be in on them...and some would surely talk.
People guess and propose theories....but nothing has been proved (moon landing, 9/11)...just questions asked.
In this case what would
a) Be the purpose of a cover up/conspiracy?
b) Why target C&W fans?
c) Why would "more than one shooter" be kept quiet...if there's another mad-man out there surely that would be important to know?
d) With a number of agencies involved in the investigation which is the alleged "holder back of information"...because you cant have an official cover-up without officials being involved?
Is there a conspiracy theory about this one Lods - what have you heard?
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