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Rd 23: Post Game Party: Carlton vs Sydney
#81
(08-28-2017, 11:14 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I'm not going to blame him because it takes a team to defend and sheer weight of numbers would have made it extremely tough, but for a bloke minding buddy he spent a lot of time nowhere near him.

That being said he joins a long list of defenders that buddy has pulled the pants down of.

Jones played a few meters in front of Buddy firstly to give himself first chance to mark the ball, and secondly to block Buddy's run, and thirdly to minimize the chance of giving away a free by attempting to spoil over the shoulder, push in the back etc. One problem that emerges from this is that Jones was constantly looking around to see where Buddy was. Between ball watching, Buddy watching etc., in combination with glut of supply that Buddy received, he was on a hiding to nothing. I doubt Rance would've done better under the circumstances.

I think the strategy was sound enough. If I were a defender, I would much prefer playing in front of Buddy.
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#82
There's in front and thirty metres away.

He did the latter far too often to really be minding him properly.

Still it's a learning curve.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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#83
The thing that has me wondering is what were the coaching group telling Jones, and others, as the night progressed...and was he/they following their advice/ instructions.
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#84
(08-28-2017, 11:48 AM)Lods link Wrote:The thing that has me wondering is what were the coaching group telling Jones, and others, as the night progressed...and was he/they following their advice/ instructions.

Jones strikes me as someone who is very coachable - he seems like the type to follow orders and instructions.

At any rate, I'd like to see some footage of Franklin's 10 goals - my memory of watching the game is that Jones was close to him for most of them, but I could be wrong.
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#85
(08-28-2017, 12:08 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Jones strikes me as someone who is very coachable - he seems like the type to follow orders and instructions.

At any rate, I'd like to see some footage of Franklin's 10 goals - my memory of watching the game is that Jones was close to him for most of them, but I could be wrong.

Buddy was quicker and stronger....Jones is a big unit but Buddy is a beast and while not strong in the air he always seemed to have the drop on Jones who played from the front too often....
Jones needed help and another big player to help block Buddy....Plugger kicked ten on SOS...so to me its all part of Jones learning experience and a champ like Buddy is going to have those days and Jones did his best...Buddy would have kicked 15 on anyone else...
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#86
(08-28-2017, 12:28 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Buddy was quicker and stronger....Jones is a big unit but Buddy is a beast and while not strong in the air he always seemed to have the drop on Jones who played from the front too often....
Jones needed help and another big player to help block Buddy....Plugger kicked ten on SOS...so to me its all part of Jones learning experience and a champ like Buddy is going to have those days and Jones did his best...Buddy would have kicked 15 on anyone else...

Jones is effectively a first year player as a defender and it's no surprise that Buddy was able to work him over.  It would have been a different story if Rowe and/or ACOS was with Jones in the back six.

As you say EB, it's part of his learning experience and I doubt whether Buddy will kick ten next time they meet.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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#87
We were missing some regulars in Marchbank and Plowman (Rowe/Silvagni) so some of the established structures were not there.
The fact that we were struggling further up the ground meant that there was always going to be plenty of opportunities for Franklin.
I'm just wondering how things were being dealt with in the box rather than being critical of Jones's efforts....but I guess that's something we'll never know.
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#88
(08-28-2017, 01:12 PM)Lods link Wrote:We were missing some regulars in Marchbank and Plowman (Rowe/Silvagni) so some of the established structures were not there.
The fact that we were struggling further up the ground meant that there was always going to be plenty of opportunities for Franklin.
I'm just wondering how things were being dealt with in the box rather than being critical of Jones's efforts....but I guess that's something we'll never know.

I think the Box realised it wasnt going to be our day and Buddy was on fire...Bolton would know him well and just figured Jones would learn more by suffering a bit of pain and it
was always about learning once the Swans had the game on their terms..
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#89
(08-28-2017, 12:28 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Buddy was quicker and stronger....Jones is a big unit but Buddy is a beast and while not strong in the air he always seemed to have the drop on Jones who played from the front too often....
Jones needed help and another big player to help block Buddy....Plugger kicked ten on SOS...so to me its all part of Jones learning experience and a champ like Buddy is going to have those days and Jones did his best...Buddy would have kicked 15 on anyone else...

I guess so. Unfortunately the right strategy doesn't always lead to the desired outcome. I reckon if Jones played from behind Buddy could have kicked 15.

No great shame having your colours lowered by Franklin having a day out, with no support.
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#90
(08-28-2017, 12:28 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:....Plugger kicked ten on SOS...

I was there watching closely that day and SOS still won half the contests.
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