Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

[PaulP]

In 2014 when the knives started to come out for Mick in his second year we had 7 1/2 wins and 5 losses under 2 goals. This year is looking very similar to that and we're starting to see a drop off in form of the senior players who might be starting to lose faith in the game plan which is pretty much identical to the one we played back then.

What's Mick got to do with anything ? Or Ratts for that matter ?

Some people's obsession with past coaches. Honestly and truly.......

[flyboy77]

Murphy is only going to get worse with the sleepless nights in the next couple of years. Trade him and Gibbs now and get something for them.

Whilst I agree, in theory, about trading the Smurf, unlikely he'd want to go or that anyone would really want him....he hasn't been anywhere near his best for many a year.

If he stays, the Captaincy baton should be passed....perhaps that'll help him play closer to his potential?

[PaulP]

Whilst I agree, in theory, about trading the Smurf, unlikely he'd want to go or that anyone would really want him....he hasn't been anywhere near his best for many a year.

If he stays, the Captaincy baton should be passed....perhaps that'll help him play closer to his potential?

Neither Murph nor Gibbs have made a completely convincing transition to inside mids / heavy lifters IMO. They were both recruited under Pagan as creative play makers, and both played their best footy with Judd, Robbo and Brock doing the donkey work. No doubt Gibbs has fared better in this respect than Murph, and has won a B+F since then, but I just don't think when the chips are down, they are the types who can get things back on our terms.

IMO, another example of our club playing blokes in ill suited positions. Flexibility and adaptability do have their limits.

[BluePhantom]

Agree with the comments on Murphy and Gibbs, but Thomas has played well and is obviously popular with the boys.  After one poor game you want to chop him. Everyone plays bad in a losing side that is why you lose.
Murphy stays but lose Captaincy to Cripps.
Gibbs traded. Too many times for too long he picks and chooses which games he is going to play well.
Thomas stays as he is a good roll model.

[flyboy77]

Agree with the comments on Murphy and Gibbs, but Thomas has played well and is obviously popular with the boys.  After one poor game you want to chop him. Everyone plays bad in a losing side that is why you lose.
Murphy stays but lose Captaincy to Cripps.
Gibbs traded. Too many times for too long he picks and chooses which games he is going to play well.
Thomas stays as he is a good roll model.

Thomas has played maybe 6 decent games all season, the rest of the time MIA ie a witches' hat.

Popularity? So what...

[Micky0]

I've been reasonably happy with Daisy this year and happy that he got rid of the contract stuff etc but he was incredibly woeful yesterday.  Because he has no excuse like Gibbs potentially has of being tagged out of the game or Murph having some groin issue

[madbluboy]

What's Mick got to do with anything ? Or Ratts for that matter ?

Some people's obsession with past coaches. Honestly and truly.......

I pointed out this season being similar to 2014. You mentioned Ratten.

[DJC]

In 2014 when the knives started to come out for Mick in his second year we had 7 1/2 wins and 5 losses under 2 goals. This year is looking very similar to that and we're starting to see a drop off in form of the senior players who might be starting to lose faith in the game plan which is pretty much identical to the one we played back then.

Give it up  :

[flyboy77]

Give it up  :

x14

[PaulP]

I pointed out this season being similar to 2014. You mentioned Ratten.

Dude, I'm kidding.