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(07-10-2017, 12:13 AM)Pratty link Wrote:Korcheck, I just wonder if he'll get there. After all, we want him to become a bona-fide AFL ruckman.
We need to give Korchek another year I reckon.
Gorringe is no good at all and Phillips is injury prone and doesn't have much body strength, if Kreuzer goes down we're sunk.
Korchek is a helluva big unit and doesn't mind throwing his weight around, if he can genuinely pick up the game in the next twelve months he'll be good value.
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(07-10-2017, 01:29 AM)blue4life link Wrote:We need to give Korchek another year I reckon.
Gorringe is no good at all and Phillips is injury prone and doesn't have much body strength, if Kreuzer goes down we're sunk.
Korchek is a helluva big unit and doesn't mind throwing his weight around, if he can genuinely pick up the game in the next twelve months he'll be good value.
As a Cat B rookie, don't think it hurts to give him a 3rd year. Tough only into his 2nd year. He's improved.
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(07-10-2017, 12:13 AM)Pratty link Wrote:I think Smedts and Palmer are the least of our worries. They aren't in our best 22, they'll probably be with us as basically VFL players for experience in 2018 and then be gone. I've got no issue with that whatsoever.
The big one is this upcoming trade/FA/draft period. Well another critical one anyway...
Josh Kelly and Jacob Hopper have to be in our sights surely. Are we after a Dusty Martin as a FA?
Will Gibbs go back to SA, and the Crows? If he does, I'm would say thankyou, very sincerely for his services and for an outstanding leadership and playing role he has produced thus far in 2017. He's been outstanding! What a pro!
Are we into any KPP's? Lever? McGovern? Gunston? Lobb?
Will Casboult go?
For me the delistings include:
Buckley
Boekhorst
Sumner
Jaksch
Gorringe
Armfield
White
What of the future of Thomas? 50/50 IMO. Open to him staying. Just depends on who comes and goes IMHO.
Lamb plays a bit of a niggle/pressure/tagging half-forward role now. Suits him IMO, and I'd like to explore that for the rest of the year, before making a call on his playing future.
Lebois??? Benefit of the doubt in his 1st year and with his injuries, but he'd want to show something or he's gone. Horrible yet again on Saturday in the VFL. I didn't even know he was playing!
Of the rookies, we should keep Alex Silvagni and Sheehan.
I am open to keeping Glass-McCasker and Korcheck. Reckon JGM showed a bit on the weekend. Korcheck, I just wonder if he'll get there. After all, we want him to become a bona-fide AFL ruckman.
Delist Gallucci.
I guess how many we off is also function of who we pick up - in the various drafts and through trading?
Graham safe, solid back up. imho.
Disappointed Sumner hasn't cut it - had high hopes...
Will Boeky keep a spot by default if he keeps hitting 35+ possies?
ditto White as a back up?
He played very well against the Crows.
I'd be looking very hard at that WA full forward fellow - Saunders - unlikely to cost much...can play. Would clearly do very well at VFL level and maybe at the elite level...
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(07-10-2017, 01:31 AM)Pratty link Wrote:As a Cat B rookie, don't think it hurts to give him a 3rd year. Tough only into his 2nd year. He's improved.
Definitely.
His ruck work is already way ahead of Gorringe but he doesn't get involved in general play much, that's what he needs to work on.
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Korchek...no idea really about AFL footy...delist
Sheehan, good kick, but injury prone and needs selective opponents IMO...gone
Sumner...skills are ok but doesnt find enough footy..delist.
Lamb....at this stage he might get another year as he has shown a bit of mongrel in his last few games...
Gorringe....bruise free footballer....gone
Philips....good value IMO...skills are ok but can get injured...
Armfield...been a goer but is more value in a off field role.
Boekhorst...not suited to the hard physical take no prisoners approach of AFL footy...delist.
Simon White...done well to play as many games as he has but with Alex Silvagni offering more I'd move him on...butchers the ball too much.
Graham....good VFL player and can be handy at AFL level but dont see any major upside..
Jaksch...about as intense as a maccas soft serve on a 40 degree day...gone
Thomas...probably will get the extra year..
Smedts....list fill
Palmer...can be handy and probably deserved more senior games but will only play out his contract as backup.
Buckley....hasnt matured physically and we can only have so many small bodies on the list, doesnt do enough even in the VFL...
Lebois...skills are good but looks like a schoolboy in terms of body size...one more year maybe
Gallucci...back to Willy...
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(07-10-2017, 02:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Korchek...no idea really about AFL footy...delist
Sheehan, good kick, but injury prone and needs selective opponents IMO...gone
Sumner...skills are ok but doesnt find enough footy..delist.
Lamb....at this stage he might get another year as he has shown a bit of mongrel in his last few games...
Gorringe....bruise free footballer....gone
Philips....good value IMO...skills are ok but can get injured...
Armfield...been a goer but is more value in a off field role.
Boekhorst...not suited to the hard physical take no prisoners approach of AFL footy...delist.
Simon White...done well to play as many games as he has but with Alex Silvagni offering more I'd move him on...butchers the ball too much.
Graham....good VFL player and can be handy at AFL level but dont see any major upside..
Jaksch...about as intense as a maccas softer serve on a 40 degree day...gone
Thomas...probably will get the extra year..
Smedts....list fill
Palmer...can be handy and probably deserved more senior games but will only play out his contract as backup.
Buckley....hasnt matured physically and we can only have so many small bodies on the list, doesnt do enough even in the VFL...
Lebois...skills are good but looks like a schoolboy in terms of body size...one more year maybe
Gallucci...back to Willy...
My thoughts.
4 stay (green)
4 go (red)
of the 9 others (orange) we keep about half as required to balance the list.
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(07-10-2017, 02:09 AM)kruddler link Wrote:My thoughts.
4 stay (green)
4 go (red)
of the 9 others (orange) we keep about half as required to balance the list.
My take on it is similar, although I think it will also depend on our trade deals.
If Gibbs goes, Armfield could stay as cover. Gorringe might be another we persist with simply through lack of other ruck options.
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(07-08-2017, 10:43 AM)laj link Wrote:Touhy deal gave us the upgrade needed to get Marchbank. We essentially swapped Touhy for Marchbank and Smedts. Smedts was steak knives essentially.
Even allowing for Smedts we did well there. Big time!
At this rate, we better start calling them the Northern Steak Knives.....
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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Josh Fraser
"48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 16 disposals, 7 marks, 3 rebound 50s
From the coach: We’re trying to work really hard on his work-rate away from the contest and how he can impact the game through his positioning defensively. He competed really well in the contest: the next step is ensuring he’s proactive when the ball is away from his area at all times. "
Is that simply code for 'The guy is lazy!' Make way for a kid who will have a crack.
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(07-10-2017, 02:24 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:My take on it is similar, although I think it will also depend on our trade deals.
If Gibbs goes, Armfield could stay as cover. Gorringe might be another we persist with simply through lack of other ruck options.
Gorringe needs the Liam Jones makeover treatment in a different position or he is finished as an AFL player IMO...too soft and his ruck skills are very novice like......
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