Rd 14: Post Game Palliative care: Carlton vs Richmond

[ElwoodBlues1]

Agree with Kruds comments...our spud factor was too high, too many VFL standard players only....not the first game we have lost at the selection table.
Hardwick was a bit more inventive with his moves as well....their  small forward line worked vs our taller backs....Plowman, Marchbank and Weitering were serviceable at best and not suited to some of the Tiger smalls...

Boekhorst has been a bust...gone at years end.
Smedts isnt quick enough or good enough in pressure games.
Pickett wants to play bruise free pretty football or spectate.....
Graham gave effort after half time but wont ever be the class mid we need...just caught in between VFL and AFL standard..

Umpiring was woeful but not the difference....

Levi probably did enough to keep the Tigers interested...

Need the second tall forward as Baggers said...Harry probably has to play even though his form isnt great in the NB's......
Same old same old...Rance marking all our bombs assisted by Astbury, at least Harry might force a contest and some loose ball..

[Woodstock]

We lost it at the selection table.

Losing 3 kids with enthusiasm and hunger was going to be hard to replace.

Failure to bring in White to do a job, or as a swingman to mix things up wasn't a good start as he brings the requisite hunger to the contest.

Pickett, simply doesn't influence the game enough. Yes, he needs games and we need to cross our fingers, arms and legs for him, but it wasn't the week for him.

Smedts....not sure what we were thinking with bringing him in this week. If anything he needs to be played deep forward, not across the middle/backline.

Graham....does a job....just not well enough. Will always be a small step below AFL level, but at least we know what he offers and is consistent.

Already having Boekhorst and Lamb, while adding the above 3, meant we had a few too many ???'s on effort and output. Obviously losing Lamb early was not ideal, but we may have lost Boekhorst, Pickett and Smedts as well. Non-eventers, the lot of them.

I would've preferred the mature bodies of White and Armfield to all of the above.

But...hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and do better at the selection table next week.

Excellent points. I'll add terrible tackling attempts and insipid pressure. And Murphy. Show boating again. Man he is overrated, his timidness kills me. Set a very poor example today when the captain needed to smash someone into the ground and make a stand. I don't know, I just don't have the love for him like others do. Sorry, rant over.

Poor selections. Unfortunate about Lamb. Hope the lad is ok. Crows at the G next shall be a drumming. They will be baying for blood after the Hawks loss and we will get a pasting unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat.

[stevie-poo]

FARK that was bad!

[mateinone]

Pickett and Smedts should not play again until they are exceptional in their endeavour and impact in the NB.

He won't get it because we lost and that is okay, but I think Charlie Curnow would just about have been a lock for the Rising Star this week if we won and if he keeps this up, he is a certainty to get one.

I think we were completely outplayed in regards to having no way to stop the ball movement from our forward 50 in transition, I cannot remember us being beaten so easily in this fashion in quite a while.

It is going to be a game to learn from, but I think there might be a hell of a lot of tough talk in the reviews this week.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Pickett and Smedts should not play again until they are exceptional in their endeavour and impact in the NB.

He won't get it because we lost and that is okay, but I think Charlie Curnow would just about have been a lock for the Rising Star this week if we won and if he keeps this up, he is a certainty to get one.

I think we were completely outplayed in regards to having no way to stop the ball movement from our forward 50 in transition, I cannot remember us being beaten so easily in this fashion in quite a while.

It is going to be a game to learn from, but I think there might be a hell of a lot of tough talk in the reviews this week.

This was a list shaping win if you want a positive, some players like Charlie Curnow established their credentials, some like Boekhorst, Smedts and Pickett probably had their papers stamped.
Selection and lack of appreciation of Richmonds game plan/setup didnt help....
Shame with Pickett as he has skills and was a No 4 pick but he just doesnt seem to be able to concentrate or apply himself for 100 minutes...makes a brave smother then half attempts a mark playing bruise free footy...very frustrating is that lad...

[kruddler]

I've been banging on about it a bit, but up until recently we've had a blessed run with injuries.

Now we lost 3 players with injury from last week. Add that to the 2 key posts down back with knees and thats as big as our injury list has been all year.
The result?
A very poor result in the 1's and a smacking in the 2's.

We need to hope we have some players back ASAP or we will repeat our 2nd half of the season last year.

We have Adelaide and Dees in the coming weeks, followed by the 'easier' game of last years premiers.

Its going to get worse before it gets better.

[pinot]

We need two classy half forwards - of the Wright and Lamb size and this years draft has a few beauties. Need depth in this position.

[Gointocarlton]

God that was a frustrating game to watch - we just needed to harden up a bit stick a screwing tackle! Tigers weren't that good, and we played as bad as I've seen us play, and it was only what 4 goals?

Jack Reiwoldt is a Goddard.

Murph - what's going on there? Timid slow and seemed really out of sorts?

Cripps champ.

That last bit of play where Gibbs kicked beautifully to Pickett who completely missed it - what was that?  Obviously inexperience, we really need and want players that want to be the match winner - too many chipping it around rather than taking it on

I thought that kick by Gibbs was ordinary. Gave Pickett no chance.

[PaulP]

Boeky has had enough chances to prove himself - has pace and skill, but that's not enough.

Plenty of players had their colours lowered today. I wonder whether the injuries suffered by Pickett and Smedts in the past has made them a little timid ? Smedts played his worst game for us today, although he wasn't Pat Malone. I still think he and Pickett need to be give the benefit of the doubt, for now.

Whatever selection issues we have, the teams currently sitting top 4 don't play molasses footy.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

Pickett marks and goals, they get nervous and anything can happen. But he didn't and it didn't!!

Exactly. Sliding doors moment right there. Plus, first 2 scores of the last q were points - make 'em goals and the Tiggies would have been thinking "here we go again".

Our worst 4 are much worse than their worst 4.  They had a plan to strangle our half forward line and they stuck to it.