Rd 13: Pre Game posturing: Carlton vs Gold Coast

[mateinone]

Whilst he's a better prospect than Dylan, I reckon you could say similar about Jack Silvagni.

As blue4life stated elsewhere, we were more or less forced to recruit him. If his name was Jack Smith, would we have shown an interest ?

I know he's young, I know he's still learning the caper, I know he busts his gut, but his skills, lack of pace and goal kicking worry me a little.

Geez... I am a big wrap for young SOS, still very young (a week older than H) and had fantastic form in the 2s for a 1st year player to earn the spot. Kicks a goal each week, lays a few tackles and takes 3-4 marks.. I think he will be a good one. I also expect he will put on another 5-6 kg over the next couple of seasons as well.

I know I went early on him, but I reckon he is rated highly and a fair reason why we will pay  more for Ben.

[PaulP]

Geez... I am a big wrap for young SOS, still very young (a week older than H) and had fantastic form in the 2s for a 1st year player to earn the spot. Kicks a goal each week, lays a few tackles and takes 3-4 marks.. I think he will be a good one. I also expect he will put on another 5-6 kg over the next couple of seasons as well.

I know I went early on him, but I reckon he is rated highly and a fair reason why we will pay  more for Ben.

Unless SOS had his lupara pointed at a few other recruiters, there's probably a reason why he went pick 53.

Yes, I know such a view will win me no friends around here. I know he's a fave of many. I'm just calling it as I see it. He could become anything (good or bad), but at this point, I see him as an honest toiler.

[Gointocarlton]

Unless SOS had his lupara pointed at a few other recruiters, there's probably a reason why he went pick 53.

Yes, I know such a view will win me no friends around here. I know he's a fave of many. I'm just calling it as I see it. He could become anything (good or bad), but at this point, I see him as an honest toiler.

lupara lol

[mateinone]

I think he went 53 because of exposed form. I think if he took the traditional route he would have gone higher.
You are of course entitled to a view, but I tend to think if he was freely available and not a Silvagni now, clubs would be keen to get hold of him.

Now I know Josh K was a different sort of player, when drafted he was 4 cm taller (now 5) and 4 kg heavier than Jack, but below are some comparisons of JK after 2 full seasons and Jack now after 1.5 seasons.

I am not drawing too much conclusion, other than to say his stats are decent for a 2nd year forward.



Anyway mate, each to their own and you are obviously more than entitled to have doubts on players (I have doubts on a few myself  ), I am sure we are both hoping in this instance you are wrong.

[PaulP]

My nerd alarm just went off again.  ;D

I hope all players that wear the navy blue turn out to be superstars. It is a hope, however, that is rarely realized.

Whatever their stats may say, I reckon JK and Jack are miles apart.

[Thryleon]

Unless SOS had his lupara pointed at a few other recruiters, there's probably a reason why he went pick 53.

Yes, I know such a view will win me no friends around here. I know he's a fave of many. I'm just calling it as I see it. He could become anything (good or bad), but at this point, I see him as an honest toiler.

The main reason he dropped to 53 is that he had a shoulder operation in his draft year and didn't play a lot of footy. From memory he didn't test at the combine either.

He was also under aged for his draft year.  There was even a school of thought to say wait 12 months and go the following draft instead.

[sandsmere]

Whatever their stats may say, I reckon JK and Jack are miles apart.

I agree there PP.
Jack is going OK and will play a lot of footy for us in the coming years, but JK he isn't.

[mateinone]

I agree there PP.
Jack is going OK and will play a lot of footy for us in the coming years, but JK he isn't.

I think it is missing the point of the original comparison.
Both were young players (Jack 3 months younger) coming into AFL playing 2nd forward in a team not doing so great.
I was huge wraps for JK whilst he was here (and he had a lot of detractors), yet at the same stage Jack is doing better than JK was, without a doubt at all.
Now JK has the advantage that he likely was going to fill out more so was perhaps less into his development, but my main point was to show there was nothing really to worry about with Jack, he is coming along nicely and (imo) ahead of the curve.

I wasn't saying that he will be a better player than JK when I put the post up, and I certainly was not saying Jack is anywhere near JK at present however... (in a different role) I actually think he might end up having a better career than JK does.

Though that is just based on watching the two play their early careers.

Geez that is a long way off who plays against Gold Coast tonight  ;D

[PaulP]

JK could perhaps be forgiven for not showing much in his time with us, playing as he was alongside Fev (2006 Coleman Medalist) and to a lesser extent Betts. Apart from Wright, Jack has very little competition. 

At any rate, the wash up will come soon enough.

[flyboy77]

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