2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle

[pinot]

The only thing that disappointed me with this game is the team collectively didnt crack in with vigor all game like this team normally does... just slightly listless today probably tired kids.

[Gointocarlton]

Umpiring cost us.  They were cheating.  We still have some spuds:

Nick graham.  Awful.
Charlie Curnow- Big question mark
Cunningham- no.
Not sure about zac fisher either.

Gibbs. 34 touches, 6 tackles, had no effect on game.

Stupid game plan of keepings off.  Yes it limits thrashings but we can't score.

Disappointing effort.

Entitled to your opinion but just remember one thing, 31 games into a total rebuild. We were a rudderless shambles of a club. We are now showing we can be competitive and when it goes well, we can match it with anyone. Problem is, we are still growing and need to get maturity into the newbies so they can sustain effort for longer periods. Curnow played game number 12 or something? We have seen glimpses of what he can do. If he is doing what he is now in 2-3 years time still, fine, have a crack. Its a slow process, piece by piece, be patient, there are clubs in alot worse of a state than us.
Also, dont under estimate what it means to be 2 men down for such a long period of time. Rowe has been one of our more important players. Daisy runs hard and organises the kids out on the ground. The two rotations less hurt us more so than the shocking umpiring IMO.
And as for the Foxtel commentators, I know why I dont pay for a full Foxtel subscription. Unlistenable. (if that's not a word I just made one up).

[Gointocarlton]

The only thing that disappointed me with this game is the team collectively didnt crack in with vigor all game like this team normally does... just slightly listless today probably tired kids.

I didnt see every minute of the game but I saw plenty cracking in.

[townsendcalling]

SPS, Jack, Charlie look like they need a rest...

Sure do. After an interstate trip in the wet, rotate them out next week which gives them 2 weeks off and bring in a couple who we have in the wings for insurance.  Remember SPS had no preseason and hasn't missed a game. Needs a decent break.

[bratblue]

Entitled to your opinion but just remember one thing, 31 games into a total rebuild. We were a rudderless shambles of a club. We are now showing we can be competitive and when it goes well, we can match it with anyone. Problem is, we are still growing and need to get maturity into the newbies so they can sustain effort for longer periods. Curnow played game number 12 or something? We have seen glimpses of what he can do. If he is doing what he is now in 2-3 years time still, fine, have a crack. Its a slow process, piece by piece, be patient, there are clubs in alot worse of a state than us.

You know who that guy is? Only comes on when we lose which means we'll see less and less of him as the years go by.

[sandsmere]

Entitled to your opinion but just remember one thing, 31 games into a total rebuild. We were a rudderless shambles of a club. We are now showing we can be competitive and when it goes well, we can match it with anyone. Problem is, we are still growing and need to get maturity into the newbies so they can sustain effort for longer periods. Curnow played game number 12 or something? We have seen glimpses of what he can do. If he is doing what he is now in 2-3 years time still, fine, have a crack. Its a slow process, piece by piece, be patient, there are clubs in alot worse of a state than us.

You've nailed it Cic.

People seem to forget about the rebuild.

Forget the umpires, it was our blokes not being good enough today that  were responsible for the flogging.

It is all part of what we have to go through climbing the ladder.. we'll get plenty more results like this in the next 2-3 years.

It's good to get games into the young blokes, but don't expect them to get great results for a while yet.

The improvement is showing, but it is going to be a long, slow process.

Finals around 2020 would be a good result.

[Micky0]

I actually thought they did quite well.  There was obviously an imbalance in the last quarter as we couldn't mark it in our F50 at all which was frustrating.

I am not completely disappointed at all, it was wet, ridiculously so at some points (altho they seemed to be handling a dry ball and we a wet ball?!) and of course the umpiring - but you will always get that interstate, always. We missed some easy shots in the first that would've put us way up - that's what we should Focus on.

Never mind, nice to watch Williamson thought he was great. The few that were caught were disappointing but we'll get there  ;D

[Dominator_7]

Too many errors cost us yet again.
Once we went 2 men down early in the 3rd term, we were never going to win in those sorts of conditions.
Confused as to why Murph was being booed by some fans.
Get Sav to put some time into Jack.
Plowman cost us with some crucial errors.
SPS, Charlie, and a couple other kids were virtually invisible
Graham reminded me why I didnt see him in our future plans.
Michael Walters' over celebrating really gave me the s**ts.
The scoreboard flattered Freo in the end.

[townsendcalling]

it was our blokes not being good enough today that  were responsible for the flogging.

Flogging is a bit harsh. I think 'spirited effort against the odds' would be more accurate.

[sydneybluesfan]

A lot of similarities to the Saints game - the old firm played really well and the backline made it hard to score. But the kids in the midfield and forward line made very limited contributions which means we just can't score enough to trouble decent sides.

We made 2 tackles in our forward 50 for the game!! The young guys can't hit the scoreboard and the ball bounces straight back out most of the time it came in. If you can't put scoreboard pressure on then you are going to lose most games, and we have not made any improvement in this area and if anything you could mount an argument based on the stats that we are actually going backwards. We have scored 70 less points than Brisbane!!

Cas and Wright have been negated in the last 2 weeks and we have no Plan B to score. I think they need to keep mixing up - give Jones a crack to change the setup, or give KJ 3 weeks to save his career.

We are definitely brave and up for the fight, and we were down on rotations, but we just have too many guys who can't assert themselves over 4 quarters. And because we have no forward line we don't get reward for effort and butcher way too many scoring opportunities that we need to convert if we are going to become a good team.