VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey

[LP]

Armfield will not wear a 1st 18 jumper again.  Just a harsh reality....has been superseded by too many others. But he got the best out of his ability.  McKay, having seen a few seconds games, is the 'slowly, slowly' player.  He desperately needs another full preseason to perform the role we require.  Give him a couple of cameos in 2017, but nothing more than that.  Dont do a Darcy Moore on the kid if we don't have to.  Build body and confidence!!

Wouldn't give up on Armfield for 2017 yet, but the writing is on the wall longer term.

Agree about McKay, slowly slowly is my preferred option, Carlton have cooked too many talls through desperation and over-exuberance. For this reason I'd love to see Jones and Jaksch getting some last chance options, they are more than useful to bridge a gap while McKay gets his AFL body.

[mateinone]

Armfield will not wear a 1st 18 jumper again.  Just a harsh reality....has been superseded by too many others. But he got the best out of his ability.  McKay, having seen a few seconds games, is the 'slowly, slowly' player.  He desperately needs another full preseason to perform the role we require.  Give him a couple of cameos in 2017, but nothing more than that.  Dont do a Darcy Moore on the kid if we don't have to.  Build body and confidence!!

Cheers for the info on Harry
With regards to patience with him, I have absolutely no need to see him rushed at all.
Whilst great to get a glimpse of him, if he isn't ready he isn't ready and always believed young talls need time to develop.
For me I was just very excited by a few snippets (which is always dangerous) and interested on whether that reflects how he does play.

Because if it does, we might for the first time look like we are going to have our major KP roles filled, especially if Ben is as good as early reports have suggested he would be

[Thryleon]

Wouldn't give up on Armfield for 2017 yet, but the writing is on the wall longer term.

Agree about McKay, slowly slowly is my preferred option, Carlton have cooked too many talls through desperation and over-exuberance. For this reason I'd love to see Jones and Jaksch getting some last chance options, they are more than useful to bridge a gap while McKay gets his AFL body.

I think hes done LP.

He might get a Andrew Walker match later in the year, but his body is succumbing to injury and stick a fork in him at AFL level.

We need to acid test a few players in the second half of the season, and I wouldn't want to do it with more than one or two per match meaning he is effectively finished, and like townsendcalling has mentioned, his next match is likely to be his last one for the Navy Blue seniors, which is a pity but its where we are at as a football club.

I like Army.  He is a good clubman, loves the place, and is generally a positive influence at our footy club, and I would absolutely love the idea of the Northern Blues having Armfield run around for them next season, whilst we mentor him into a coaching role post AFL.

[LP]

I think hes done LP.

He might get a Andrew Walker match later in the year, but his body is succumbing to injury and stick a fork in him at AFL level.

We need to acid test a few players in the second half of the season, and I wouldn't want to do it with more than one or two per match meaning he is effectively finished, and like townsendcalling has mentioned, his next match is likely to be his last one for the Navy Blue seniors, which is a pity but its where we are at as a football club.

I like Army.  He is a good clubman, loves the place, and is generally a positive influence at our footy club, and I would absolutely love the idea of the Northern Blues having Armfield run around for them next season, whilst we mentor him into a coaching role post AFL.

I think when the club thinks he's done he'll pull the pin, reports had him pulling the pin after last season but allegedly the club asked him to go around one more time to his surprise.

Having said that, I think there is room for one of the likes of Daisy and Armfield, and sentiment or bias should not come into the decision making process. At the moment you'd say Daisy has him covered if Daisy can stay fit!

I think a bigger worry for the club is why we aren't confident in saying that the likes of Lamb and Sumner have gone past him! Lamb was excluding the 2010 GWS / GC bonanza effectively a 1st Rnd draft pick!

[Thryleon]

I think when the club thinks he's done he'll pull the pin, reports had him pulling the pin after last season but allegedly the club asked him to go around one more time to his surprise.

Having said that, I think there is room for one of the likes of Daisy and Armfield, and sentiment or bias should not come into the decision making process. At the moment you'd say Daisy has him covered if Daisy can stay fit!

I think a bigger worry for the club is why we aren't confident in saying that the likes of Lamb and Sumner have gone past him! Lamb was excluding the 2010 GWS / GC bonanza effectively a 1st Rnd draft pick!

I think you might have a point here regarding Armfield pulling the pin, and I also think you are right in this being a bigger issue for the club, but these blokes were calculated trading gambles that havent paid off, and to the clubs credit, rather than worrying about it, they are just pulling up the sleeves, and moving on.

Lamb has shown some consistency, but I cant really make a case for any of them to be with us again next season on history or current form.  Matthew Wright has pushed all 3 out of the lineup, and moving forward, id rather we persist with Pickett in this role.

Depending on list management, if we kept one, id probably go with Sumner based on talent, Lamb based on consistency and actual output (I think he averages a goal a game for our seniors) and Armfield based on what he used to bring to the table.  If he is under any duress, then he might survive but i doubt it.  Using the once bitten twice shy approach, Lamb survives out of those three, but not by much a good match by any of them could tip the tide back in their favour.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I think Kym Lebois might be a decent forward pocket goalsneak when fit and firing, the other bloke I like is Liam Ryan from Subiaco, cant believe he hasnt been drafted unless he has a preference for staying in WA...

Lamb and Sumner are both delist candidates...I prefer Sumner as he has courage, pace and can tackle well but he cant stay on the park and just doesnt get enough ball...shame because he has talent..

[Gointocarlton]

I think Kym Lebois might be a decent forward pocket goalsneak when fit and firing, the other bloke I like is Liam Ryan from Subiaco, cant believe he hasnt been drafted unless he has a preference for staying in WA...

Lamb and Sumner are both delist candidates...I prefer Sumner as he has courage, pace and can tackle well but he cant stay on the park and just doesnt get enough ball...shame because he has talent..

Agree with all that, wish Sumner could get a good run of injury free footy, as you say, has talent and pace to burn.

[BluePhantom]

Looking at the team, all but maybe 3 have had a go in the seniors  :o
Been awhile since we can look at the Reserves and have a choice of players to fill spots in the 1's.
Good work Blues

[DJC]

Agree with all that, wish Sumner could get a good run of injury free footy, as you say, has talent and pace to burn.

I just can't see it.  Sumner reminds me of Dylan Buckley but without the attitude and big kicking.

I hope he proves me wrong but I think he's been left behind.

[LoveNavy]

I just can't see it.  Sumner reminds me of Dylan Buckley but without the attitude and big kicking.

I hope he proves me wrong but I think he's been left behind.

A bugger alright. Most certainly signals our rebuilt is on track at worst. Flying sensational at best.