Bryce Gibbs & Marc Murphy

[cookie2]

This could be turned into a win/win, at least for one of these guys. They get the chance to go somewhere else, without the present burden of developing youngsters, and possibly win a premiership and we get on with our rebuild without all of this soul searching.

[Micky0]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/te...06367ea21f

[Amers]

The bottom line re our 3rd quarter/regular capitulations is that there is a failure of grand proportions from on-field leaders when we're worked out by the opposition and they counter our structure(s) - we, collectively, p1ss ourselves... this is a time in games when our leaders are supposed to inspire and give direction to the newbies, instead we're relying on our newbies to give the older blokes 'and injection of energy'... what a load of frog sh1t that is.

Agree.

Murphy and Gibbs have both been frustrating to watch nearly their whole careers.
We can all see the potential, but it has never reached 100%.
Now that 1's the captain and both are senior players and leaders of the club, it makes it even harder to accept their inconsistencies.

Murphy I think we will just have to learn to live with, although releasing him of the captaincy might actually be good for him, I'm not sure.
Gibbs I would trade at seasons end. Adelaide know we are serious now and should offer up a reasonable trade.

[DJC]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/te...06367ea21f

What a wimp!

[Spanner_smf2_import2]

What a wimp!

You said it, not me.

I guess we'll have to put up with Captain Turnover for another week. Would have been nice to see how much better the mid field performed without his "gut jogging".

[townsendcalling]

Bothered to check the stats of Gibbs in the previous 4 weeks (thumb injury week 5 possibly effects all ball handling and tackling??) or Murphy (early knee injury week 5 possibly effected all areas of his game!?). Both still maintained significant game time despite their injuries.

Love these people who take a major, major whack at guys who are having a fair crack in a weak, young team...be interesting to check their sporting CV for endurance, courage, leadership, application, determination at whatever level they attained because all those attributes can be measured regardless of skill

[Gointocarlton]

Agree.

Murphy and Gibbs have both been frustrating to watch nearly their whole careers.
We can all see the potential, but it has never reached 100%.
Now that 1's the captain and both are senior players and leaders of the club, it makes it even harder to accept their inconsistencies.

Murphy I think we will just have to learn to live with, although releasing him of the captaincy might actually be good for him, I'm not sure.
Gibbs I would trade at seasons end. Adelaide know we are serious now and should offer up a reasonable trade.

If we blink on Gibbs at years end, Adelaide will offer is SFA so SOS needs to treads carefully if they decide to off load him this year. Watching him this season, I am pissed off because I see a bloke who doesn't give a stuff about our club and doesnt want to be there. He wanted to leave and still wants to leave despite what the club told the media. They tell us he is a professional and would do his job going fwd but me personally? I am not seeing that. I am probably way off the mark, but thats what it looks like to me.

[Spanner_smf2_import2]

Bothered to check the stats of Gibbs in the previous 4 weeks (thumb injury week 5 possibly effects all ball handling and tackling??) or Murphy (early knee injury week 5 possibly effected all areas of his game!?). Both still maintained significant game time despite their injuries.

This is a typical response when defending the two. OK, it may explain diminished performance this week, but what about the 200 or so other games they've played for the club? Or do they seem to sustain these injuries on a weekly basis especially when the going gets a bit tough?

Seems to me to be a convenient excuse given that now more people are asking the question.

Just admit it, they haven't turned out how the club had hoped. Don't try and defend the indefensible.

Oh, and questioning me on my sporting CV has nothing to do with this issue. As stated, these guys are on somewhere between 500-700K. If you put in one p*ss poor performance on that kind of money you should be questioned, let alone make a career of flying on the coat tails of the like of Judd and Cripps and then pretending to be club champions and accepting accolades you're not entitled to. They should be viewed as chumps, not champs.

[flyboy77]

I have to side with Spanner.

Heck, don't look at stats, a smart players can easily get 35 possessions and have little effect on the outcome of a game - that is where I see Murphy.

Gibbs undoubtedly can have more impact on a game but only when he chooses to.....

[Thryleon]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but I'm not going to agree with spanner on this one.

Some players simply can't do more than what we see.