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(04-25-2017, 11:14 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I'm too busy looking at poor results, demoralized supporters, poor media performances, dodgy trades, and a few other things besides. His record was very good, but all players and coaches get to a point where their heart's not in it, and where they just can't or won't do what's required. Why is it that in the 12 months he was out of the game, that no other club showed any interest ? Why is it that we were the only ones ? Why is it when we moved him on, once again no other club showed any interest ? Why is it that when he threw his hat in the ring for the Crows job, they ignored him ?
The rest of the AFL world is telling you something, and you ought to pay attention.
This isn't about Malthouse.
I'm saying that no employee of any organisation would enjoy a succession plan forced upon them.
What part of that point is lost on you??
I couldn't care if it was Malthouse or any other afl coach. It was a daft idea to begin with, and we are yet to see a player turn assistant turn senior coach all in one club and enjoy any decent success.
Even Ratten went to Melbourne before coming to us.
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(04-26-2017, 12:09 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:This isn't about Malthouse.
I'm saying that no employee of any organisation would enjoy a succession plan forced upon them.
What part of that point is lost on you??
I couldn't care if it was Malthouse or any other afl coach. It was a daft idea to begin with, and we are yet to see a player turn assistant turn senior coach all in one club and enjoy any decent success.
Even Ratten went to Melbourne before coming to us.
Whether they like it or not is not relevant. I think conceptually a succession plan is a great idea. Otherwise what else is there ? The usual media circus, mounting pressure, loss after loss, then the coach gets sacked. You think that's better ? The fact that Bucks so far has stunk it up does not invalidate the original idea. The idea is good - the choice of replacement, perhaps less so.
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(04-26-2017, 12:24 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Whether they like it or not is not relevant. I think conceptually a succession plan is a great idea. Otherwise what else is there ? The usual media circus, mounting pressure, loss after loss, then the coach gets sacked. You think that's better ? The fact that Bucks so far has stunk it up does not invalidate the original idea. The idea is good - the choice of replacement, perhaps less so.
Not a forced succession plan.
It worked with roos, because roos had had enough, and didn't want the job anymore.
As for the selection process, like a normal job interview you canvass the candidates available and hire accordingly.
Not thrust the chosen one into the hot seat and then oust the previous one.
You know how we selected Bolton.
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(04-26-2017, 12:42 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Not a forced succession plan.
It worked with roos, because roos had had enough, and didn't want the job anymore.
As for the selection process, like a normal job interview you canvass the candidates available and hire accordingly.
Not thrust the chosen one into the hot seat and then oust the previous one.
You know how we selected Bolton.
It worked for Roos because he negotiated a great salary doing a quarter of the work.
As soon as that pay was renegotiated off he went
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(04-26-2017, 05:46 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Given that we were virtually bankrupt at the time we probably didn't have much choice, Judd paid his wages many times over with new sponsors and members.
Not only that, he also set standards and gave the club credibility, but in pure football terms it was a poor trade.
Good summary, I agree.
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(04-25-2017, 10:52 PM)blue4life link Wrote:Appointing a club stalwart as coach almost always ends in tears, in recent times it has for Voss, Ratten and Hird and it no doubt will for Buckley, you can count on one hand the times that it's worked over the last 30 years.
When the time comes it's always postponed too long and then when the trigger is pulled it's like shooting Bambi, and divides supporters and members.
It's just not a good idea.
Are these stalwartish enough for you ?
- J Kennedy Sr.
- Parkin at Hawthorn
- Robert Walls
- Jock McHale (long ago I know)
There are plenty of coaches who get sacked who never played a single game for the club.
The question was asked early on whether anyone had changed their mind.
I originally picked 9-12 but jumped off after the Port game when it appeared to me that "winning" wasn't even on the agenda.
Once you jump off, you're off, so I'll have to wear that.
Question for the 16-18 group though....Anyone want to change their mind?
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start of year i said bottom 4 ,i hope i am wrong but as long we dont finish last we should be happy with the way team is progressing .
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6-8 wins wherever that takes us.
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Pre-season I thought we'd be bottom 2. Re-evaluated a few weeks ago and thought maybe around 13-14th. But now that a few of those bottom sides have perked up, I'm back to thinking bottom 4, but I don't think we're necessarily a 'bottom 4' team. I think this is a very even comp this year, and as long as we're competitive, we'll win a few and I don't think it's going to matter as much where we finish.
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