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JLT game 3
(03-15-2017, 12:10 AM)Baggers link Wrote:What a difficult balancing act with Weits. Our forward line is one of the worst, if not THE worst in the league so it's almost a case of necessity to play him there more often than you might otherwise want. Harry is a work in progress and will take time and Casboult is just an 'almost' player - takes a good mark from time to time... the end.

We'll have to get games into Harry but expectations will remain modest for his influence in games. Our midfielders and small / medium forwards will have to impact the scoreboard much more. I hope SOS2's form in the season proper improves on what he dished up in the JLT series.

Good summary there Baggers...Harry Mac is an interesting player, looks a bit lost at the minute but  I reckon his progress
will be similar to Daniher from Essendon and its a case of being patient and getting games into him...those expecting bags of goals and a young Kernahan type might have to temper expectations.
SOS2...might just have been cruising in the JLT games...think he will be value this season and our leading goalkicker.......if Palmer, Smedts and Pickett can give us something we might sneak a few more goals and at least be competitive..
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(03-15-2017, 12:35 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Good summary there Baggers...Harry Mac is an interesting player, looks a bit lost at the minute but  I reckon his progress
will be similar to Daniher from Essendon and its a case of being patient and getting games into him...those expecting bags of goals and a young Kernahan type might have to temper expectations.
SOS2...might just have been cruising in the JLT games...think he will be value this season and our leading goalkicker.......if Palmer, Smedts and Pickett can give us something we might sneak a few more goals
and at least be competitive..

Weiters and SOJ, as 2nd year players, will probably get 2nd year blues.
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Our Forward line will Continue to Struggle until:

1. We look at 40+ entries a game
2. We decide that panicked kicks to the top of the square is not the best decision.
"We are a club in a hurry"

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(03-15-2017, 01:06 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Our Forward line will Continue to Struggle until:

1. We look at 40+ entries a game
2. We decide that panicked kicks to the top of the square is not the best decision.
It would be safe to say that strategy is not one endorsed by the coaching staff but rather one devised (on the run I'd imagine) by some of our less intelligent players.
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(03-15-2017, 01:06 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Our Forward line will Continue to Struggle until:

1. We look at 40+ entries a game
2. We decide that panicked kicks to the top of the square is not the best decision.

We averaged 50+ I50s last year!

The problem seems to be poor scoring efficiency from I50, not an inability to get I50s.

For 2016 looking at I50 relative to the ladder, it's not perfect but if you do I50 For / Against you find the positive percentage will give a good indicator of ladder position. But even on that we are far from the worst, we had 1116 For / 1148 Against.

btw., The worst club in the AFL last season was Freo averaging 45+ I50s.
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(03-15-2017, 01:21 AM)LP link Wrote:We averaged 50+ I50s last year!

The problem seems to be poor scoring efficiency from I50, not an inability to get I50s.

For 2016 looking at I50 relative to the ladder, it's not perfect but if you do I50 For / Against you find the positive percentage will give a good indicator of ladder position. But even on that we are far from the worst, we had 1116 For / 1148 Against.

btw., The worst club in the AFL last season was Freo averaging 45+ I50s.

See point 2...

We do not hit up loose guys in our forward 50 and hit leading targets.

I call this the Josh Kennedy Syndrome. Poor guy lead and lead and lead and we used to kick it on Fevs head or Eddies head instead.
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(03-14-2017, 10:26 PM)DJC link Wrote:Bolton made sure that Weitering played on the competition's best forwards in his first season and he looked comfortable matched up with Franklin, the Riewoldts, Kennedy etc.  He has also looked comfortable leading into space as a forward.

I think that Weitering's development may progress more smoothly if he is able to focus largely on playing one position.  However, it's irrelevant whether that position is as a defender or a forward.  If he is to be used as a forward from time to time, I would prefer to see him starting there rather than being switched during the game.

One of the reasons Weitering was recruited is because he can play forward and back.

Hopefully, if our coach is as good as reported, then these two will have worked out a blueprint for Weitering for his entire career which incorporates the week to week.

In that open dialogue, Jacob would have identified what he wants to do, what role he sees himself performing in, and what KPI's he needs to meet to satisfy that criteria.  They would also have recognised that along with that, the team will have priorities that need to be met, in order for the team to achieve success, as well as the individual and that occasions will arise where roles will need to be played out of necessity, and provided the open dialogue is there, then both coach and player can tick that off and the world keeps spinning.  Some weeks, the KPI's will be met, and other weeks will be gap weeks where the player and coach will learn about how Jacob will need to develop his skills to satisfy all of the wants by coach, player and team.

Are we in the proffesional era??  this is where we are going and this is what I expect for not just Jacob, but each and all of our players moving forward.  A regular catchup where these sorts of things are discussed.
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(03-15-2017, 01:24 AM)shadesy link Wrote:See point 2...

We do not hit up loose guys in our forward 50 and hit leading targets.

I call this the Josh Kennedy Syndrome. Poor guy lead and lead and lead and we used to kick it on Fevs head or Eddies head instead.

That's fine, then your issue is efficiency, as long as it's clear we haven't a problem getting the ball into F50. Too many supporters believe our problem is mainly a midfield issue, getting more I50s won't help us. As you point out we burn the forwards and have been doing so for over a decade, and this is currently compounded by the reliance on Casboult to convert those times we actually deliver the ball correctly.

FWIW, highlighting our inefficiency even further, the Swans average was only marginally more than us at 56+ I50s a game.
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(03-15-2017, 01:06 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Our Forward line will Continue to Struggle until:

1. We look at 40+ entries a game
2. We decide that panicked kicks to the top of the square is not the best decision.

Kicking in panic is the big problem. With the right players and the right set ups, smartly timed and placed kicks to the top of the goal square are as legitimate a goal scoring option as any other.
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(03-15-2017, 01:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Kicking in panic is the big problem. With the right players and the right set ups, smartly timed and placed kicks to the top of the goal square are as legitimate a goal scoring option as any other.

Hopefully Pickett and LeBois/Polson/Sumner/SPS can start creating some real movement/fluidity/space in the forward line.....it's about having multiple legitimate options to goal, not just whether you're 199+cm.....
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