Squad for JLT game named

[LP]

I think you should see coherence and structure even if intensity isn't obviously there

If you look at the Dees today there was clear structure, you knew where the goals would come from, who would deliver the ball, win the clearances and how they would shut us down.

I didn't know what Carlton was doing, not that I saw more than about half a game, but we looked confused. I'm hoping we are holding our cards close and the rest can be disinterest, but it worries me because if we want to rise the Dees are going to be a good benchmark. We never looked like testing the water today.

[PaulP]

Unless they're starting extra early in getting our hopes down and setting themselves up for another massive tilt at the draft.

But that's probably too far fetched.

[laj]

I know - given the last 4 seasons, I always fear the worst.

Game is based around running. No run, no structure. Dees played like it was a real game, we turned up for a hitout. Look crap every time when that happens. I was shocked half way through the last qtr when I looked at the scoreboard and we were "only" 34 pts behind. Not expecting alot this year but today tell us not much. Basically just looked at how the younger one's played

[PaulP]

I hope you're right Jimbo.

[LP]

I was shocked half way through the last qtr when I looked at the scoreboard and we were "only" 34 pts behind.

Yep, for the team the Dees had in, the way the game looked on the tube as well as the stats, the Dees should have won bigger.

[thrunthrublu]

Unless they're starting extra early in getting our hopes down and setting themselves up for another massive tilt at the draft.

But that's probably too far fetched.

we've been hitting that draft for 15 years. Perhaps try something different, like winning

[Roy]

You can say all you want about it being the first game against Melbourne but I remember the first game last year how refreshingly organised Carlton looked in our defensive structures. Bolton brought over a new system from Hawthorn and you could see it straight away.

Well today we looked all at sea on every front and that is concerning
In fact it is alarming and considering how abysmal we were in the 2nd half of 2016, if this is what we are going to expect in 2017 well just piss Bryce Gibbs off to Adelaide and cya in 2018.

Only positives were Charlie Curnow got plenty of it in the midfield and Caleb Marchbank looked really good.

Carlton will not win a game in 2017.

[Lods]

Disagree.

We actually saw that last year.

We saw it a few times when we won the thing.

What you won't see is a true prediction of regular season form from the pre-season.
(I hope that continues to be true, otherwise its a long season)

It totally depends on what approach the club takes to the pre-season.
Do they want to approach it with intensity or just go through the motions and shake the cobwebs out

This year it's become even more meaningless with no real competition involved.
It's like the old practice games.

[PaulP]

we've been hitting that draft for 15 years. Perhaps try something different, like winning

I agree. I believe we tried this "winning" thing a few seasons back, but it wasn't correct for whatever reasons, so we had to change tack.

[shawny]

Yes I know it's only preseason but geez was hoping to see a better display then that considering the strength of the team picked.

Our forward structure is STILL stuffed and defence was not a shadow of what it was last year.

Marchbank looks a player as does McKay but Smedt looks like we have just added another turnover merchant to the list and Palmer showed exactly why no one wanted him.........except us.

Murphy was Murphy and Gibbs was Gibbs. Same
Old same old.

Gonna be a very long season again sadly.