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A List with Real Potential
#71
(11-28-2016, 10:40 PM)DJC link Wrote:I think that the comments about Charlie Curnow playing as a midfielder were made in order to pump up his tyres prior to the draft.

Charlie spent about 50% game time in the midfield rotations for several TAC games. He started off standing an opposition big bodied mid then ended up being the one getting shadowed. For his size he proved to be unexpectedly agile and won a lot of ball, it came natural to him.
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#72
Very happy to see Ciaran Sheehan, sorry if the spelling is wrong, being re-listed as a rookie.

Suffered severe Ostiitis pubis, can't spell that either, but is apparently over it.

I reckon he's got loads of untapped potential and in my opinion, would have been a much better player than Zac Touhey, but probably not as good as Ciaran Byrne.

I hope he gets his chance to show us something this year.
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#73
(11-29-2016, 12:33 AM)LP link Wrote:Charlie spent about 50% game time in the midfield rotations for several TAC games. He started off standing an opposition big bodied mid then ended up being the one getting shadowed. For his size he proved to be unexpectedly agile and won a lot of ball, it came natural to him.

Charlie played four games before dislocating his patella in the 5th.  He played primarily as a key forward and kicked 8 goals in his four full games.  He also played as a ruckman and, in one game, kicked three goals, had 11 disposals, six tackles and 18 hitouts.  I can't see him playing as a ruckman or a midfielder with us.

Quote:It is one of the disappointments of this year's draft that just as Charlie Curnow looked set to try his hand at a midfield role his season was interrupted by injury.

The Geelong Falcon started the season seen as a combative and dangerous forward prospect, but the plan was always to throw him into the midfield to see what he could produce.

Then injury struck, and a dislocated kneecap ruled him out of action for three months, including the mid-year NAB AFL Under-18 Championships with Vic Country. Although at stages it appeared he would not return as opinions swung on the damage sustained in the injury, Curnow came back for the Falcons' final five games of the season and impressed.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-26/29...lie-curnow

Charlie played as a key forward in his last five TAC games.

I think that the most relevant player comparison is with Jake Stringer.  He was supposed to be a "big bodied mid" but, as we know, has made his name as a shorter key forward.
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#74
I have Charlie Curnow pegged more as a Kouta utility type who will play a lot of roles...he is too good an athlete to be left going cold down forward...sure he will play there at times but I see him running on the ball as well so he can use that athletic ability to be a marking target from kickouts etc

Kerr at FF, Harry Mac at CHF and SOSOS as the third tall forward is how I see the Forward line setup on a more consistent basis...

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#75
(11-29-2016, 02:06 AM)DJC link Wrote:Charlie played four games before dislocating his patella in the 5th.  He played primarily as a key forward and kicked 8 goals in his four full games.  He also played as a ruckman and, in one game, kicked three goals, had 11 disposals, six tackles and 18 hitouts.  I can't see him playing as a ruckman or a midfielder with us.

Charlie played as a key forward in his last five TAC games.

I think that the most relevant player comparison is with Jake Stringer.  He was supposed to be a "big bodied mid" but, as we know, has made his name as a shorter key forward.

I notice with Stringer that he often strays down to the midfield and also often plays like a mid in the forward zone. I'll be happy if Charlie plays like him tbh!
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#76
(11-29-2016, 02:56 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I have Charlie Curnow pegged more as a Kouta utility type who will play a lot of roles...he is too good an athlete to be left going cold down forward...sure he will play there at times but I see him running on the ball as well so he can use that athletic ability to be a marking target from kickouts etc

Kerr at FF, Harry Mac at CHF and SOSOS as the third tall forward is how I see the Forward line setup on a more consistent basis...

Hard to argue with your logic EB1. He should become a very good player. Potential to be elite, I recall some saying he could even be the best out of last year's crop (noting a lot of players are often touted as 'the best').
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#77
(11-29-2016, 02:06 AM)DJC link Wrote:Charlie played four games before dislocating his patella in the 5th.  He played primarily as a key forward and kicked 8 goals in his four full games.  He also played as a ruckman and, in one game, kicked three goals, had 11 disposals, six tackles and 18 hitouts.  I can't see him playing as a ruckman or a midfielder with us.

Charlie played as a key forward in his last five TAC games.

I think that the most relevant player comparison is with Jake Stringer.  He was supposed to be a "big bodied mid" but, as we know, has made his name as a shorter key forward.

That sort of fits with what I said DJC, the main game I saw him standing a massive on-baller it could well have been a Kreuzer type mobile ruckmen.

Sure it was against Ballarat Rebels and Curnow quickly made himself more dangerous as an attacking option rather than a minder. But it would have been early in the season and I recall Curnow wasn't fit(looked flabby, baby fat), he didn't spend long periods on the ball just short bursts then off or resting forward.

I remember this because I thought he was among the best but didn't play the next three or four games. I reckon he played early then was out, which contradicts what you have found reported. I put that down to fitness at the time, I didn't notice any injury.
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#78
The sooner we realise the old FF,CHF, Winger, FB positions are obsolete in this game, the better we will be at not pigeonholing players to certain roles based on height weight etc.

Mid's are supposedly getting bigger and KPF's smaller. Talent, Competitiveness, disposal and decision making are what makes a good football team.
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#79
(11-29-2016, 03:37 AM)shadesy link Wrote:The sooner we realise the old FF,CHF, Winger, FB positions are obsolete in this game, the better we will be at not pigeonholing players to certain roles based on height weight etc.

Mid's are supposedly getting bigger and KPF's smaller. Talent, Competitiveness, disposal and decision making are what makes a good football team.

Yep, footy is now a game of dynamic mobility and fast changing situations rather than the fixed positions of yesteryear. A bit like comparing blitzkrieg to trench warfare.
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#80
(11-29-2016, 03:37 AM)shadesy link Wrote:The sooner we realise the old FF,CHF, Winger, FB positions are obsolete in this game, the better we will be at not pigeonholing players to certain roles based on height weight etc.

Mid's are supposedly getting bigger and KPF's smaller. Talent, Competitiveness, disposal and decision making are what makes a good football team.

It's not so much height and weight but reflexes, lateral movement, acceleration, core strength, etc.  And I'm not so sure KPFs are getting smaller; some of the current crop are taller than the biggest ruckmen of the last century.

I reported my conversation with Ed Curnow earlier this year in which he said that Charlie was an elite mark (and we've seen some of that).  That should overcome his (relative) lack of height and enable him to become a damaging lead up forward and KPF.
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