Be strong, say NO

[harrisendblue]

The guy OWES us money!!  He's been a bad debt!!  He received goods and services and wasn't able to pay!!  He's a bafoon with serious history who is openly welcomed by us. Name of the swimming pool at the club???

How many undesirables barrack for Collingwood, probably pay dollars to the coffers but Eddie is smart enough to totally disassociate the club with them.  Toby Mitchell lasted 30 secs with an association with Richmond. It's all about perception, culture and what you stand for as a club, the type of person you want mixing with and access to your young, sometimes vulnerable players. 

Read his history and his current situation. Would you want a guy like that sitting on the end of your kid's bed reading nighttime stories??

Last year, we were the laughing stock of the league and other supporters after the Malthouse / Collingwood game, both because of the result of the game and the colorful character we had in the box.  Would any other club allow one of this town's colorful characters in the box, even if they wanted to pay big bucks?? Don't think so!!

he has given at least 850k i reckon he can have pool named after him.

seriously would u let any stranger be with ur kids in their bedrooms - if yes then mate hand yourself in as being an unfit parent? maybe its okay if they dont have a debt/ colorful personality/ some police record - maybe a priest would fit ur moral compass a little better and would be allowed to be with ur kids in their bedroom?

i call b/s on this. we were laughed at because of the shite performance our team put in on such a huge historical occasion - maybe u had a couple of maggies near u that stirred u up - if so then harden up.

clubs in our situation need the cash so they will do what it takes that's the fact - if u dont like that contribute more cash into the club so they can say sorry doc were financial.

[DJC]

again show me any factual evidence he has been a negative impact on our commercial operations. i again point out he has no formal involvement with the club other than being a supporter/contributor. the club does not put out press releases re the doc. so which part of the constitution specifically will allow the club to remove him as a member? its very easy to say piss him off /get rid of him but how do u propose it gets done that is legal?

Who said anything about removing him as a member? 

Anything that reflects badly on the club has a negative impact.  That's why Richmond stopped King bringing Mitchell into the rooms.  I really can't see much difference.

[DJC]

exactly! if memory serves me right there was a fair amount of rumour that some time may have been served or was it a bro that did it for him.

Fair amount of rumour? 

John Nicholls served 3 months for embezzlement and larceny in 1960.  He was also fined for fraud in 1980 after his Carlton career had finished.  Both are fairly minor matters in comparison to 12 months for attempting to pervert the course of justice and engaging a hitman to intimidate a witness.

[harrisendblue]

Who said anything about removing him as a member? 

Anything that reflects badly on the club has a negative impact.  That's why Richmond stopped King bringing Mitchell into the rooms.  I really can't see much difference.

so when u mentioned "piss him off" did u really mean to just upset him? so how exactly will u piss him off. big difference between mitchell being invited by one of the players without club permission and our fund raiser being a spot in the box. perhaps the tiggies would have a different opinion if tm has given 850K+. 

badly in ur eyes - however u still cant demonstrate a factual negative impact other than opinion. Have we seen any sponsor statements - nope. anything from either state or commonwealth government - nope. what about any law enforcement organizations - ahh again no. I would be with ya in heartbeat if any occurred and it was going to materially harm the club however it hasn't so lets not discriminate because u dont like someone who doesn't confirm to societal norms.

[harrisendblue]

Fair amount of rumour? 

John Nicholls served 3 months for embezzlement and larceny in 1960.  He was also fined for fraud in 1980 after his Carlton career had finished.  Both are fairly minor matters in comparison to 12 months for attempting to pervert the course of justice and engaging a hitman to intimidate a witness.

9 months aint a lot of difference and the first may have been positively influenced by community standing.

[DJC]

John Ralph: “I know Edelsten pays good money to the Blues but it is a horrible look for the "old-school" Blues that he is in the box tonight.”

Terry Wallace: “Who at Carlton F.C thought it was a good idea to have Doc Edelsten in every Malthouse shot has no feel for the game.”

Titus O’Reilly: “Geoffrey Edelsten in the coaches (sic) box is a living symbol of all that is currently wrong with Carlton.”

Craig Little: “It’s little more than a year since Malthouse celebrated his games record as coach under lights at the MCG. But for Carlton it was about as black as a night ever gets. Blacker still when the Channel Seven cameras revealed a moribund Geoffrey Edelsten in the coach’s box – the personal embodiment of a club living at the hole of the bottom of itself.”

I hope we've moved on and the club and its supporters are never again embarrassed by Edelsten's presence in the coach's box or any other position of prominence. 

[cookie2]

I hope we've moved on and the club and its supporters are never again embarrassed by Edelsten's presence in the coach's box or any other position of prominence.

Agree 100%. He's just not a good look!

[townsendcalling]

Agree 100%. He's just not a good look!

X 3.  The topic evokes an interesting reaction from Harrisendblue.

[LP]

I hope we've moved on and the club and its supporters are never again embarrassed by Edelsten's presence in the coach's box or any other position of prominence.

The irony is not lost on me that the "all wise and powerful media" thought is was moribund to have Edelsten in the coaches box but OK for Malthouse to be there!

I think we can dismiss their judgement as just a tad off!

[DJC]

The irony is not lost on me that the "all wise and powerful media" thought is was moribund to have Edelsten in the coaches box but OK for Malthouse to be there!

I think we can dismiss their judgement as just a tad off!

That's a whole different story LP - and we were celebrating Malthouse's 10,000th game