Rd 11: Post Game Excitement: Carlton vs Brisbane

[LoveNavy]

Important thing is how many you have in the 23-28 range as that's usually where player are in the 60-150 game range.. Average is one thing, standard deviation from the average (statistical measure) is a better guide. We have players like Simmo that skew the average.

Agree, as far as I'm concerned it really is an irrelevant bit of media discussion.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

Cor blimey this winning business is getting a bit tiresome, eh what? 

Didn't take long for young Weits to get his groove back.  Another excellent tackling performance across the board, putting pressure on their forwards - seems to be a barometer for us.  Calm heads + belief in yourself + knowledge that your efforts will be appreciated = accurate kicking. Let me be the first to say ... danger game next week!

[kruddler]

@GIC

3rd oldest team - have heard that quoted a few times. Not sure if it relates to age (guessing it is) or games played. We do have some older boys with low kms on the clock though.

Definitely relating to Age.
Showed a stat where we were a year older on average vs the Lions today.

Just on that, we have quite a few players who are in the team, but not really relied upon.
Played today (age) - Could take their spot (age)
Army (30) - Boekhorst (22)
White (28) - Jaksch (21)
Walker (30) - J. Silvagni (18)
Everitt (27) - C. Curnow (19)
You could replace any of them without too much drama

If we did that, we are a year younger than the lions today.

Add to that...
Jamo (30) likely to retire.
Wood (29) a rookie likely to retire
Rowe (28) is currently in top form, but is also in the process of being replaced by Plowman/Weitering combo.

We also have a few more mature rookies in
Sheehan (25)
Korcheck (24)
Galucci (22)
...who could easily be replaced by younger rookies.

Yes we are old, but our talent lies within the younger brigade.

[Professer E]

If Casboult gets cited for a late hit I expect the club to send a video of Robbo's even more blatant example from 30 seconds earlier to the MRP.

The umpire that failed to make the correct decision in the first place (pay the late hit) should also be held to account.  This is what happens when obvious  free kicks aren't paid.

[laj]

Definitely relating to Age.
Showed a stat where we were a year older on average vs the Lions today.

Just on that, we have quite a few players who are in the team, but not really relied upon.
Played today (age) - Could take their spot (age)
Army (30) - Boekhorst (22)
White (28) - Jaksch (21)
Walker (30) - J. Silvagni (18)
Everitt (27) - C. Curnow (19)
You could replace any of them without too much drama

If we did that, we are a year younger than the lions today.

Add to that...
Jamo (30) likely to retire.
Wood (29) a rookie likely to retire
Rowe (28) is currently in top form, but is also in the process of being replaced by Plowman/Weitering combo.

We also have a few more mature rookies in
Sheehan (25)
Korcheck (24)
Galucci (22)
...who could easily be replaced by younger rookies.

Yes we are old, but our talent lies within the younger brigade.

Yes, changes alot without much change in output.

[Gointocarlton]

9th oldest list in the comp.

Just looked at AFL Tables, we are 7th oldest in average age

NM   26.9
FR   25.9
HW   25.8
ES   25.7
WC   25.7
GE   25.4
CA   25.2
AD   25
PA   25
SY   24.9
RI   24.8
SK   24.6
CW   24.5
WB   24.4
GW   24.3
GC   24
ME   23.8
BL   23.7

[laj]

Just looked at AFL Tables, we are 7th oldest in average age

NM  26.9
FR  25.9
HW  25.8
ES  25.7
WC  25.7
GE  25.4
CA  25.2
AD  25
PA  25
SY  24.9
RI  24.8
SK  24.6
CW  24.5
WB  24.4
GW  24.3
GC  24
ME  23.8
BL  23.7

Average age is meaningless, it's the number you have in the right age bracket with the right number of games behinds. Having a number late 20's, 30 and older as well as a number of good ones very young, teens/early 20s to make an average of 25, is not the same as having most of your list in the 24-28 range making the same average. The latter you have the majority in your prime, the former you have many youngsters ready to come though, with the average skewed by a few older ones.

Like i said, the standard deviation from the average gives a much better picture. That tells you stable your average is as it tells you how much variation you have from the average.

[Zed]

If Casboult gets cited for a late hit I expect the club to send a video of Robbo's even more blatant example from 30 seconds earlier to the MRP.

The umpire that failed to make the correct decision in the first place (pay the late hit) should also be held to account.  This is what happens when obvious  free kicks aren't paid.

Hope you're right Prof. Common sense says he should be fine - it was late but just a bump mostly side-on.  My concern is the AFL highlights of the game show the Levi bump on Robbo 3 or 4 times... and nothing is shown of the Robbo bump on Levi a minute earlier  >

On recent history (and seeing as it's us) I wouldn't be surprised if the bastards give Levi a week though. He should've just punched Robbo in the nuts instead as that's apparently not an offence any more  :

[Bear]

I don't think he made contact to the head? Should be fine.

[DJC]

Just looked at AFL Tables, we are 7th oldest in average age

NM  26.9
FR  25.9
HW  25.8
ES  25.7
WC  25.7
GE  25.4
CA  25.2
AD  25
PA  25
SY  24.9
RI  24.8
SK  24.6
CW  24.5
WB  24.4
GW  24.3
GC  24
ME  23.8
BL  23.7

According to Champion Data (pre CAS suspension figures), we're equal 9th.

Average Age
1. Fremantle – 25 years and 157 days
2. North Melbourne – 25 years and 55 days
3. Hawthorn – 24 years and 307 days
4. Essendon – 24 years and 259 days*
5. Geelong – 24 years and 201 days
6. West Coast – 24 years and 175 days
7. Sydney Swans – 24 years and 124 days
8. Richmond – 24 years and 95 days
9. Port Adelaide – 24 years and 40 days*
=. Carlton – 24 years and 40 days
11. Adelaide – 24 years and 29 days
12. Collingwood – 23 years and 310 days
13. St Kilda – 23 years and 303 days
14. Western Bulldogs – 23 years and 270 days
15. Melbourne – 23 years and 241 days
16. Gold Coast – 23 years and 197 days
17. Greater Western Sydney – 23 years and 99 days
18. Brisbane Lions – 22 years and 343 days

And 12th in terms of games played.

Average Games Played
1. North Melbourne – 93.9
2. Hawthorn – 86.6
3. Fremantle – 86.3
4. West Coast – 77.9
5. Geelong – 77.3
6. Essendon – 75.5*
7. Port Adelaide – 72.9*
8. Richmond – 71
9. Collingwood – 69.5
10. Sydney Swans – 68.4
11. Adelaide – 62.5
12. Carlton – 60.4
13. St Kilda – 60.2
14. Gold Coast – 59.1
15. Western Bulldogs – 57.7
16. Melbourne – 57.5
17. Greater Western Sydney – 56.9
18. Brisbane Lions – 49

If you look at our age demographics, you will see that we are under represented in players aged 20, 21, 24, 25 and 26.  The fact that we only have five 20 and 21 year olds skews our average age.  It's not a critical issue.