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VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Frankston at Ikon
(06-08-2016, 05:09 AM)jeza link Wrote:Who said anything about playing him out of position?

Nothing to do with impatience. If you're kicking 3 or 4 goals in each game of VFL you're good enough to play. In you come. This is the opposite of impatience - this is letting performance dictate selection and ignoring the surname all together.

Weitering / CCurnow already went straight in - why should this guy be different just because of his last name?

Extra Expectation, extra Pressure, there is no one size fits all in football any more so you cant compare Weitering to Curnow to SOSOS...Jack Watts is an example of a player who should have been held back rather than thrown into the fray early..
I reckon Melbourne got it right with Jesse Hogan and gave him more time even though he was showing even more than Jack in the twos.....maybe at the end of the season  he can be given an introduction game but I dont see it improving his football by playing seniors now..
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(06-08-2016, 05:23 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Jack Watts is an example of a player who should have been held back rather than thrown into the fray early..

Such a convenient excuse for Jack. As if playing a couple of games when he was 19 equates to an excuse to play crape for 5 years. Never got that one.

SOSOS is no different from Curnow / Weitering. If your performance warrants it you play. BB has been on about that from the start.
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(06-08-2016, 06:21 AM)jeza link Wrote:Such a convenient excuse for Jack. As if playing a couple of games when he was 19 equates to an excuse to play crape for 5 years. Never got that one.

SOSOS is no different from Curnow / Weitering. If your performance warrants it you play. BB has been on about that from the start.

Have to agree. If his performances warrant selection, you pick and play him.

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(06-08-2016, 05:09 AM)jeza link Wrote:Who said anything about playing him out of position?

Nothing to do with impatience. If you're kicking 3 or 4 goals in each game of VFL you're good enough to play. In you come. This is the opposite of impatience - this is letting performance dictate selection and ignoring the surname all together.

Weitering / CCurnow already went straight in - why should this guy be different just because of his last name?

You suggested bringing Jack in for Nick Graham, an inside midfielder.  If that happens, either Jack plays in the midfield or we are one down in our midfield rotations.

Folk seem to forget that Jack is coming off a shoulder reconstruction and has had very little football in the past 12 months.  He is struggling to run out VFL games and his game time is being managed carefully. 

Whether he plays or not has nothing to do with his surname, it's about whether he is fit enough and as good as the other contenders for a spot as a medium forward.
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After reading josh Frasers appraisal I'd be surprised if we don't see him very soon if he keeps it up or even this week given the softer opposition
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(06-08-2016, 07:02 AM)DJC link Wrote:You suggested bringing Jack in for Nick Graham, an inside midfielder.  If that happens, either Jack plays in the midfield or we are one down in our midfield rotations.

Folk seem to forget that Jack is coming off a shoulder reconstruction and has had very little football in the past 12 months.  He is struggling to run out VFL games and his game time is being managed carefully. 

Whether he plays or not has nothing to do with his surname, it's about whether he is fit enough and as good as the other contenders for a spot as a medium forward.

All this above!
Have the SOSOS pushers seen him play live.  Great skills, great courage, no frame, no tank!  No hurry.
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(06-08-2016, 07:02 AM)DJC link Wrote:You suggested bringing Jack in for Nick Graham, an inside midfielder.  If that happens, either Jack plays in the midfield or we are one down in our midfield rotations.

Folk seem to forget that Jack is coming off a shoulder reconstruction and has had very little football in the past 12 months.  He is struggling to run out VFL games and his game time is being managed carefully. 

Whether he plays or not has nothing to do with his surname, it's about whether he is fit enough and as good as the other contenders for a spot as a medium forward.

Didn't Graham replace Sumner (our forward pocket)?
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(06-08-2016, 12:43 PM)jeza link Wrote:Didn't Graham replace Sumner (our forward pocket)?

Graham and Byrne replaced Murphy and Sumner.  Sumner is part of the midfield rotation and there is a fair bit of movement between forward and defence so bringing a defender in for a forward doesn't change the team balance or reduce the number of midfielders.
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(06-08-2016, 12:43 PM)jeza link Wrote:Didn't Graham replace Sumner (our forward pocket)?
He came in as a mid for Murph didnt he?
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(06-08-2016, 12:57 PM)DJC link Wrote:Graham and Byrne replaced Murphy and Sumner.  Sumner is part of the midfield rotation and there is a fair bit of movement between forward and defence so bringing a defender in for a forward doesn't change the team balance or reduce the number of midfielders.
Oh yeah, forgot about Byrne.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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