Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

[cookie2]

Possibly Murph may need a rest depending on how he pulls up and we should bring in Grahame who's been playing well in the NBs?

[LP]

Possibly Murph may need a rest depending on how he pulls up and we should bring in Grahame who's been playing well in the NBs?

With the NBs having a bye it will be interesting, I bet Buckley is spewing now about that suspension!

They said Byrne was "Omitted" but I suspect he was sore, perhaps he comes in for either Murphy or Sumner.

[Gointocarlton]

With the NBs having a bye it will be interesting, I bet Buckley is spewing now about that suspension!

They said Byrne was "Omitted" but I suspect he was sore, perhaps he comes in for either Murphy or Sumner.

Corked calf

[flyboy77]

We've seen from our perspective what a toxic environment does to players, way too often for my liking.

Gorringe has come out of what looks to be a pretty toxic environment, he may just need a little time to gain some confidence to set himself free. Today Casboult had 1AW and Everitt in form and Gorringe floating forward, it sets him free and makes our opposition second guess where the ball will go.

Gorringe moved OK, got to positions that forced Geelong to respect him even if he didn't get on the end of many. Maybe we lost out in the ruck, but the extra time SpecialK got to stay in there made up for it. As much as I liked Phillips form pre-hammy, I thought todays setup worked better against a Geelong side that lacked an experienced ruck option. For half a game they had to use Blicsavs as a tagger!

It may be that against say a Norp, Swans or Wet Toast well go with Kreuzer and Phillips combo to keep them honest. But today we could back SpecialK in and have Gorringe draw some forward heat.

They say Gorringe is a great runner.....thought he did very well.

Phillips will come back through the 2s in any event after that time on the sidelines?

[flyboy77]

Rockliff the only notable inclusion?

Player Injury Estimated Return
Harris Andrews Foot 2 weeks
Dayne Beams Knee Indefinite
Hugh Beasley Back 2 weeks
Rohan Bewick Groin Test
Michael Close Wrist and foot 2 weeks
Tom Cutler Shoulder Test
Cian Hanley Groin Indefinite
Jaden McGrath Foot Indefinite
Tom Rockliff Hamstring 1 week
Sam Skinner* Knee 2 weeks
Updated: Thursday, May 26

From 5 Talking Points:

5. Is the West-Martin partnership working?
Trent West has now played the past two matches working in partnership with Stefan Martin. Martin was noticeably quiet against the Hawks, finishing with just seven touches, while West had eight. In comparison, the Hawthorn Ceglar-McEvoy combination had a total of 29 disposals and three goals. Martin seemed frustrated at times playing in the forward 50, and with West more of a tap ruckman, rather than being dominant around the ground, it remains to be seen whether the duo is an effective partnership. With Carlton coming up next week, it will be interesting to see if Justin Leppitsch pursues with playing the two together.

[madbluboy]

Danger game? When was the last time those words were posted here?

[PaulP]

Danger game? When was the last time those words were posted here?

Was thinking much the same.

[flyboy77]

Who gets Tom Bell? 2E?

[LordLucifer]

Anyone who watched yesterdays match between the Lions & Hawks saw that the Lions are an under-rated side. They easily matched it for 3/4's but for some unexplainable reason and in complete contrast to what they were doing with monotonous regularity, started to make poor decisions and skills errors in the last and the Hawks capitalised on it.

If they rekindle that same attack & attitude as they had in the first 3/4's against the Hawks next week against us, this one will be no snack at all.

[PaulP]

Anyone who watched yesterdays match between the Lions & Hawks saw that the Lions are an under-rated side. They easily matched it for 3/4's but for some unexplainable reason and in complete contrast to what they were doing with monotonous regularity, started to make poor decisions and skills errors in the last and the Hawks capitalised on it.

If they rekindle that same attack & attitude as they had in the first 3/4's against the Hawks next week against us, this one will be no snack at all.

Agree, but I would also add that it's very common for cellar dweller, struggling sides to drop their bundle in the last 1/4. They battle valiantly to get within a goal or so, then once they see their efforts not being enough, they lack the mental resilience and intestinal fortitude to keep going, and just give up. Happens often.