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Collins
#71
(04-16-2016, 09:00 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Tracked down this from John Elliotts book 'Big Jack: My sporting life'

"Collins, who had been CEO of Carlton up to the end of 1994, knew that in those days all sorts of payments were made outside the system - because he was making them. In 1993, Carltons salary cap figures were known only by Ian Collins.

But at the beginning of 1994, when Collins went to the AFL, the first thing he did was indentify that the Carlton Football Club had breached the salary cap by about $50,000, and fine us. I was absolutely incensed. He had given us no indication of a problem, he had finalised the numbers and nobody else knew them."


In answer to your question Lods...
"I can only surmise he wanted to demonstrate to his new employer that he was no longer looking after the Carlton Football Club."

I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season? ???

He's presenting jumpers????


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#72
(04-16-2016, 09:08 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season?

Yes - some primary sources, eyewitnesses etc. are essential. This is a very important issue.

EDIT : Let's not forget that Elliott's word has been questioned before :

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/0...35754.html
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#73
(04-16-2016, 09:08 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season? ???

He's presenting jumpers????

I knew that you'd bring up the potentially frosty relationship and spent time trying to find a quote suggesting otherwise in the same book. But i've run out of time as the footy is starting.

I don't think Big Jack hates Collins as much as he has every right too.
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#74
(04-16-2016, 09:08 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season? ???

He's presenting jumpers????

Our board are a bunch of idiots.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!
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#75
(04-16-2016, 09:25 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I don't think Big Jack hates Elliott as much as he has every right too.

That's the problem...He loves himself ;D
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#76
(04-16-2016, 09:57 AM)Lods link Wrote:That's the problem...He loves himself ;D

Fixed
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#77
(04-16-2016, 09:27 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Our board are a bunch of idiots.

I know one bloke who'll agree with you Wink
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#78
(04-16-2016, 10:01 AM)Lods link Wrote:I know one bloke who'll agree with you Wink

LOL. Well you certainly have to ask the question in this instance!

I'm switching on to the EPL now. Relegation battle betyween Sunderland and Norwich! ;D
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!
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#79
(04-16-2016, 10:01 AM)Lods link Wrote:I know one bloke who'll agree with you Wink

who? Tongue
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(04-16-2016, 12:22 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:LOL. Well you certainly have to ask the question in this instance!

I'm switching on to the EPL now. Relegation battle betyween Sunderland and Norwich! ;D

Sounds rivetting.  Wink
Reality always wins in the end.
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