Rd 4: Pre Game Pressure: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

[PassIt2Carrots]

When he came over we were told Kreuzer was an athletic freak, fact is he never was. He hasn't lost it, he simply never had it.

[Thryleon]

When he came over we were told Kreuzer was an athletic freak, fact is he never was. He hasn't lost it, he simply never had it.

Nah his first season was as good a season as I have seen from a young ruck who was athletic and very good.

Unfortunately he just couldn't get his body right after succumbing to injury.

FWIW I've been told he is cooked and will never reach the heights he was destined to.

[MosquitoFleet]

Nah his first season was as good a season as I have seen from a young ruck who was athletic and very good.

Unfortunately he just couldn't get his body right after succumbing to injury.

FWIW I've been told he is cooked and will never reach the heights he was destined to.

It was publicly known that kruezer was cooked in the sense that he failed 2 medicals at pies and dogs at last season's end

[Thryleon]

It was publicly known that kruezer was cooked in the sense that he failed 2 medicals at pies and dogs at last season's end

the difference is that was my mail years ago and it's something I have repeatedly stated on these forums.

I was hoping it was wrong and last season gave me hope but it's looking worse now.

[Gointocarlton]

FWIW I've been told he is cooked and will never reach the heights he was destined to.

By who?

[Thryleon]

By who?

A friend of mine knows the family,  as well as the physiotherapist he sought another opinion from.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Nah his first season was as good a season as I have seen from a young ruck who was athletic and very good.

Yeah nah when you think of athletic you think of quick and a big leap, Kreuzer never had those attributes full stop. Natanui is athletic, Kreuzer is a plodder when it comes to athletic ability.

[Lods]

Nah his first season was as good a season as I have seen from a young ruck who was athletic and very good.

Unfortunately he just couldn't get his body right after succumbing to injury.

FWIW I've been told he is cooked and will never reach the heights he was destined to.

He's roughly the same size as Goldstein  (200-201cm 103 kg)

But I reckon the injuries have made it too hard for him to carry that weight.
It's a Catch-22...lose the weight and get a bit of mobility and leap back but lose the size to compete.

This one time....at Draft camp.....

The No.1 pick for 2007 was Kreuzer. His scores at the camp included a 14.2 beep test (10th) - astounding for a kid of his size - as well as 10.51 min 3km time trial (9th) and a 3.06sec 20m sprint. All those times are exceptional for a midfielder, let alone someone tall and 95kg.

[madbluboy]

Yeah nah when you think of athletic you think of quick and a big leap, Kreuzer never had those attributes full stop. Natanui is athletic, Kreuzer is a plodder when it comes to athletic ability.

I think he was pretty athletic for a ruckman when we drafted him but he has slowed considerably and what was athletic for a 200cm tall player 10 years ago isn't as much today.

[Thryleon]

Yeah nah when you think of athletic you think of quick and a big leap, Kreuzer never had those attributes full stop. Natanui is athletic, Kreuzer is a plodder when it comes to athletic ability.

Hmm, I dont know.

either way, his good is outstanding and we forget how good it is simply because we havent seen him do it enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GWEJdRI...tml5=False