Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion

[Micky0]

I thought Murph was really good yday before being pushed out or fading out of the game - Gibbs disappointed me yday but he was interviewed after the game on ABC and spoke really well - he's obviously one of the leaders at the club but I didn't like his game yday at all.

Murph can only do so much on his own and I totally disagree with him being soft or picking and choosing when he goes - very harsh imo.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Murph can only do so much on his own and I totally disagree with him being soft or picking and choosing when he goes - very harsh imo.

Not really, look at how Cripps hunts the ball even with two blokes hanging off him. That's how Murphy should be attacking the ball and anything less is just not good enough, for a 19 year old to be showing the captain the way is just wrong. Then add to that that Murphy could not even take advantage of the fact that Cripps had two hanging on to him. gibbs is worse I'll give you that, neither of them are worth the money they are on/ They are the highest paid players by default.

[jeza]

Cripps himself was extremely disappointing yesterday.

Our team did not play well yesterday. That was the disappointing thing. Forget all the green shoot etc. we could not have played much worse.

Mids played really really pooly. All of them. Kreuze and Gibbs had absolute shockers.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Cripps himself was extremely disappointing yesterday.

Had two blokes hanging on to him at every stoppage. He was sacrificed, the supposed senior players at the club could not take advantage of it.

[Micky0]

Murph also does not have the size of Cripps. Murph tries his guts out but there's only so much he can do and he did more yday than Cripps did and I don't believe that Murph was left on his own, he was just as tagged as Cripps was

[Micky0]

Anyway i was at the game yday the first quarter was great the kicking posters killed some of our momentum and if you're worried and wringing your hands about the game yday and the year ahead you haven't been paying attention. We are rebuilding from
Ground up - there will be many more game results like yday but at least so far we've seen minimal going backwards, and some real passion energy and comraderie for the first time in at least a few years. I didn't miss Yaz Hendo or Waite yday, this is definitely a new team and there are new beginnings and it's going to take some Time For the team to learn how to play together and it'll only strengthen over time.

[Spanner_smf2_import2]

We simply cannot go forward with such a soft player (Gibbs) being around the ball so much and a player like Murphy who is a little harder but let's face it picks and chooses when to go. These two blokes are two of the highest paid at the club and arte supposed to lead by example, let's cut them loose before they halt this club's development any further. They will just look to piggy back on Cripps for a free ride, just like they did Judd. Quite simply, they are the AFL version of remoras.

We thought we had weeded out the players with no heart, well unfortunately there are two or three left, the two above being exactly that. I would look to trade both at year's end.

Could not agree more. I am so sick and tired of watching Gibbs either squibbing contact, fumbling at crucial moments or turning the ball over at critical stages causing a huge momentum shift.

He has to be the most over rated player I have ever seen. I constantly hear how skillful and talented Gibbs is and I keep thinking, are these people actually watching the game? Are they seeing what I'm seeing? Jesus outside of Simpson, Gibbs is the biggest turnover merchant at the club.

We as a club would do well to part ways with both Murphy and Gibbs at the end of the year. Get players in who will consider it a privilege to play for the CFC, rather than a right. These guys prance around like they are God's gift to football, yet they've no right to call themselves footballers let alone prance. Two of the worst number one picks you will ever hope to see. The less said about Kruezer the better, but he at least tries 100% of the time.

[madbluboy]

Murph also does not have the size of Cripps. Murph tries his guts out but there's only so much he can do and he did more yday than Cripps did and I don't believe that Murph was left on his own, he was just as tagged as Cripps was

Cripps was gang tackled by 2 or 3 Swans at every ball up, Murphy didn't get anywhere near that attention. My biggest concern for Murphy is he can't stick a tackle and gets brushed aside like a child when he's playing against the big boys.

[jeza]

Had two blokes hanging on to him at every stoppage. He was sacrificed, the supposed senior players at the club could not take advantage of it.

That is just not true. Stood in the wrong spots all game. All of our mids did. Dominated the hitouts but made the rucks attempt to back hand the ball over and between Sydney players.

Ridiculous.

Happened so consistently it had to be the coaches fault.

If that js the limit of boltons tactical awareness we're in trouble because that was moronic.

[cimm1979]

I was happier with Gibbs' efforts in the second half but it's  clear the Swans mids are an awesome running and skilled unit.

I don't think he's any chance to be traded.

At stoppages Gibbs kicks off a step whereas the Swans players dish off or break away. Gibbs came to pre-season overweight. Next season his body shape needs to be completely different if he wants to be a running mid. Right now he's an inside mid shape.

If he doesn't become the running player then he's going to have to work of the half back line again like he did under Ratten.

I'll cut Murph some slack as he's outnumbered .

In terms of running power we got poleaxed. Rucks got smashed and the swans transitioned too easily from the backline, which means some players were not doing their jobs.