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(03-18-2016, 12:59 AM)LP link Wrote:My bad, it was Jon Ralph writing the article not Jon Anderson.
Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.
Cannot take much notice of Collingwood's statements, they are all after the fact and they have a vested interest in bashing Carlton, but at the time they were ultra-bitter about Daisy's departure.
No, they wanted him gone. My outlaws have Collingwood connections and they were rapt with him going and us paying overs > 
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(03-18-2016, 01:17 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Mate I beg to differ. We had already recovered from that under Ratts, the decision to sack him and appoint Mick, or moreover (IMO) the move to get Swann over from Collingwood, was the beginning of the end.
Swann was hired in March 2007.
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(03-18-2016, 01:27 AM)DJC link Wrote:No, they wanted him gone. My outlaws have Collingwood connections and they were rapt with him going and us paying overs >
It's like us saying we were glad Betts was leaving at the time, hardly a convincing argument after the fact and such statements usually arise out of bitterness.
"Daisy was the face of Collingwood" for much of his time over there, he was their poster boy despite his run of injuries. The day after he left he was all but accused of being the munitions supplier to Alan Didak and Christopher Wayne Hudson! 
Your assertion must be true, because Collingwood fans are never bitter at all! : 
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(03-18-2016, 12:59 AM)LP link Wrote:Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.
We should have taken medical advice ahead of some schmuck's belief that he has the heart to work through the injury.
There's no point defending it, the only question is how McKay has survived it.
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(03-18-2016, 01:29 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Swann was hired in March 2007.
Like I said, the beginning of the end.
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(03-18-2016, 01:47 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:We should have taken medical advice ahead of some schmuck's belief that he has the heart to work through the injury.
There's no point defending it, the only question is how McKay has survived it.
You assume we didn't and you assume it was only McKay's responsibility.
Which is likely to be as accurate as the assumption that the club sacked Fev.
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(03-18-2016, 01:17 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Mate I beg to differ. We had already recovered from that under Ratts, the decision to sack him and appoint Mick, or moreover (IMO) the move to get Swann over from Collingwood, was the beginning of the end.
Differ all you like. Sticks pause regarding Rattens future if Malthouse wasnt available spoke volumes about the footy club. The decision was not made in isolation to Swann.
At the end of the day we have moved on. Forget these fossils, they are in the past, and thats where they are staying.
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(03-18-2016, 02:36 AM)LP link Wrote:You assume we didn't and you assume it was only McKay's responsibility.
Which is likely to be as accurate as the assumption that the club sacked Fev.
Do you think we run a lemonade stand or something?
All high value contracts go to the board and they only get to the board with McKay's endorsement. Potentially, Swan took it straight there, circumventing that check (a possibility given his sacking but probably unlikely) which is about McKay's only get out clause.
Most likely is he was "convinced" that the contract should go through by Mick and Swan and for that, he would need to go.
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(03-18-2016, 03:52 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Do you think we run a lemonade stand or something?
You are the one who made the assertion that we didn't take advice in your statement below!
(03-18-2016, 01:47 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:We should have taken medical advice ahead of some schmuck's belief that he has the heart to work through the injury.
There's no point defending it, the only question is how McKay has survived it.
So I appreciate you are ignoring the advice reported at the time that Buttifant had told Malthouse that Daisy was capable of making a full recovery, you write it off as smuck advice, fair enough. But you are making an even greater assumption that independent medical advice about Daisy would have been negative.
You don't know, you are just guessing and throwing darts!
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