Clem Smith altercation

[ItsOurTime]

Cut him loose now, pay his contract out. You either have standards or you don't

I think you give him another chance but that was a bizarre comment from Trigg: We don't tolerate this behaviour, except we will.

[LP]

Disappointed he came off second best in the altercation and the fact he was there in the first place......he will either learn something and never do it again or be delisted if he does...lets give the kid another chance as I like his attack on the footy and his tackling...
The club seemed to have handled it ok ...season cant start quick enough I reckon, players are getting bored already...

Agreed, a 2nd year player on the piss during the pre-season, like he needs any more obstacles to make it as a player! He's barely cutting the mustard as it stands!

And coming after all those reports of an improved atmosphere at the club, the pessimist in me detects more spin!

Now the paranoid, why is a Nthmond player rescuing a Carlton player just days after the Dusty events emerged? Was the kid lured out on the piss? Not an excuse, he has free will, but hard to imagine any AFL player could make such a mistake voluntarily just days after the Martin incident!

Finally, you have to wonder why Caro's Rage goes front page with this story, headlining above the Martin police investigation, and the Hun doesn't even bother to report Clem's adventure yet, or at least it seems to have pulled it's version for now! Perhaps the balance Caro had to strike in the Dusty story left a bitter taste in her mouth for which the front page potting of a Carlton player was the only cure!

The Rage boosting this Clem story is using The Fly reporting technique. The Fly saw a massive pile of Rhino crap(Dusty) and while zig zagging on route to the Rhino crap nirvana it got distracted by a bird dropping(Clem)!

[DJC]

Now the paranoid, why is a Nthmond player rescuing a Carlton player just days after the Dusty events emerged? Was the kid lured out on the piss? Not an excuse, he has free will, but hard to imagine any AFL player could make such a mistake voluntarily just days after the Martin incident!

Both incidents happened on Saturday night . . .

[cookie2]

@LP

It's not that we're paranoid LP, it's just that everyone's out to get us. 

[Mav]

Stop being a wet blanket, DJC.  Don't let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory!

[laj]

Agreed, a 2nd year player on the piss during the pre-season, like he needs any more obstacles to make it as a player! He's barely cutting the mustard as it stands!

And coming after all those reports of an improved atmosphere at the club, the pessimist in me detects more spin!

Now the paranoid, why is a Nthmond player rescuing a Carlton player just days after the Dusty events emerged? Was the kid lured out on the piss? Not an excuse, he has free will, but hard to imagine any AFL player could make such a mistake voluntarily just days after the Martin incident!

Finally, you have to wonder why Caro's Rage goes front page with this story, headlining above the Martin police investigation, and the Hun doesn't even bother to report Clem's adventure yet, or at least it seems to have pulled it's version for now! Perhaps the balance Caro had to strike in the Dusty story left a bitter taste in her mouth for which the front page potting of a Carlton player was the only cure!

The Rage boosting this Clem story is using The Fly reporting technique. The Fly saw a massive pile of Rhino crap(Dusty) and while zig zagging on route to the Rhino crap nirvana it got distracted by a bird dropping(Clem)!

I'm guessing Yarran is a close friend hence came and got him. You can have friends outside your club. Yarran's last game was for Carlton anyway. Your friends don't even have to play football. Martin and Smith transgressed on the same night, it wasn't after.

19yo's are, well, 19yo's. All been 19. That won't change because they are play AFL football. Some are immature and make mistakes. From here though you learn from that mistake. I'm sure Bolton's foot clean up his arse and the fine that's coming will help that learning along. One mistake we can handle, especially for a kid, a second mistake we don't tolerate quite as easily. If he does it again he'd want to be play some real good footy otherwise he will be playing elsewhere, likely in the WAFL.

[Navy Maven]

Cut him loose now, pay his contract out. You either have standards or you don't

Standards need to be consistent though. Would you delist Patrick Cripps if he did the same thing? I dare say not. Punishment should fit the crime. Clem's made a poor choice, but he's also a 19 year old boy and he'll (hopefully) learn from this. If this becomes a pattern of behaviour, then you intervene with a harsher penalty. But you need to give a kid a chance to learn first.

[flyboy77]

Standards need to be consistent though. Would you delist Patrick Cripps if he did the same thing? I dare say not. Punishment should fit the crime. Clem's made a poor choice, but he's also a 19 year old boy and he'll (hopefully) learn from this. If this becomes a pattern of behaviour, then you intervene with a harsher penalty. But you need to give a kid a chance to learn first.

Amen. For some to suggest he should be delisted as a result of this, especially when none of us know the full story, is beyond stupidity.

[laj]

Just delist him now and be done with it.

For that?

[Micky0]

He's 19 ffs, he got pissed and got in a fight - wonder how many other 19 year olds did exactly the same thing that weekend.

Not good but everyone, especially young men, fuck up from time to time. How could you possible call for him to be delisted for that now? Altho I do wonder what effect Yaz not being at CfC will have on Clem.

Let's hope he learnt his lesson and decides to go to the gym rather than the pub!