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Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Horrible moment for Trump: Hillary pondered whether Trump paid no federal tax and didn't contribute to the military, schools etc., he said that would show he was smart.  Another bad moment: when Hillary talked about him stiffing small businessmen who did work for him and taking advantage of bankruptcy laws, he said it showed he was a smart businessman. 

We won't see them, but his comments will be replayed endlessly in Clinton ads.
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Clinton's strongest moment was when she slapped down Trump about his sexism but she already has those voters locked up.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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Hillary's worst moment was when she said the private email server was a mistake and Trump rammed home the point that it wasn't a mistake and that it was on purpose.
Highlighting her and her party's corruption against Sanders.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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One reason the debate result matters is that voting is underway right now in some states.  Those early voters might just send in their ballots now if they think they've seen enough.  Playing catch-up might not be possible.
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CNN's poll suggests Clinton won 62% to 27%, with the caveat that the 500 debate watchers were somewhat skewed towards Democratic voters.  With CNN's focus group of 20 uncommitted voters, Clinton won 18 to 2.
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I was very surprised, I had thought it was Clinton who would look weary and fatigued.

But watching and listening to the debate it seemed to me it was Trump who looked to the be struggling physically and mentally. He looked flustered, stuttered, tired and couldn't keep on track, he reminded me of an elderly relative with the early signs of Alzheimer's.

He looked less competent.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(09-27-2016, 04:40 AM)LP link Wrote:I was very surprised, I had thought it was Clinton who would look weary and fatigued.

But watching and listening to the debate it seemed to me it was Trump who looked to the be struggling physically and mentally. He looked flustered, stuttered, tired and couldn't keep on track, he reminded me of an elderly relative with the early signs of Alzheimer's.

He looked less competent.

I had the same thought LP.  It would be interesting to compare his current speech patterns with those from 5-10 years ago.  Of course, it's entirely possible that he has always struggled with the English language.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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That's the ironic thing about Trump's attacks on Clinton's stamina.  She has consistently shown doggedness and resilience.  The GOP has been after her for ages.  The Benghazi committee grilled her for 11 hours without any success.  That's just about the harshest test you could set for someone.  On the other hand, Tony Schwartz, the ghost writer who wrote The Art Of The Deal, has made it clear Trump has a very short attention span.  She ground him into the dirt over the last hour.  One commentator also noted he was guzzling water like a man with a hangover while Clinton didn't touch a drop.  Some people regard drinking water as a sign of weakness.  I'm not one of them, but some think that way.
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Tsk, tsk, DJC, don't you know Trump has all the best words ...
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