Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[Mav]

The other issue is...While we're watching the clown are we actually missing the 'devil' that would be the alternative.

Cruz and Rubio are both right-wing zealots and boast of being inflexible.  In that sense, they would arguably be more dangerous as the President than Trump who wouldn't hesitate to ignore what he said in the primaries.

Cruz, though, is pretty much unelectable.  He's an anti-populist - a guy who is unlikeable and who will only tell you want you want to hear provided that you're a right-wing evangelical nut job.  He won't be able to "pivot to the center" as Americans love to say about nominees facing a general election and he wouldn't necessarily be able to rally Trump's supporters.  It would still be a worry if misfortune overtakes the Democratic nominee and he wins à la Steven Bradbury.  I can't see Rubio being able to win the nomination even in a contested convention after diminishing himself in the attacks on Trump.

Who knows what Kasich would be like?  He has followed a gameplay of being the Simon-the-likeable candidate but what is he really like? 

[Lods]

Who knows what Kasich would be like?  He has followed a gameplay of being the Simon-the-likeable candidate but what is he really like?

Pretty conservative.....

This isn't a bad site.

http://presidential-candidates.insidegov...ohn-Kasich

It lets you compare individual candidates from both sides and gives a rundown on their views. You can switch and change the candidates.

[ElwoodBlues1]

JK
It's a very emotive issue.....and nothing raises the emotions like the fear of another Hitler but....
Conditions in America are nothing like they were in post World War 1 in Germany. The American people are also a much more diverse group than the Germans. The elements of structured militarism don't exist. Scrutiny by the media means a wider range of opinions are able to be expressed, the internet adds to that...The key to Hitler's success was the environment at the time. There may be some similarities in the racist/nationalistic rhetoric but even if Trump was Hitler reborn he would have Buckley's chance of replicating the Third Reich in America.

A much better comparison would be with Joh Bjelke Petersen and the failed Joh for Canberra campaign. Like Joe there will be a time when the Trump campaign will just lose it's steam....there are signs it's happening already as forces align against him. If he does get the Republican nomination under the scrutiny of a general election he wouldn't be able to maintain the momentum. You see he has nothing of substance. If you listen to his rallies it's just a ramble of cliches that wouldn't make up a 30 second grab on the nightly news....but throw in a protester or two and you have a bit of attention.

Trump thrives on that...Chicago the other night was never really an issue. The crowd were pretty much well controlled by the police (only five arrests according to the report I read) and even mingled (even if in somewhat heated debate) around the venue. Very little violence ensued....(although Fox had a few fights on a loop that made it look a lot worse than it actually was ) and Trump was able to play the martyr.
Who benefited....we'll see on Tuesday (Wednesday  our time.) Will the incident(s) give Trump a further boost....or is it the beginning of the end.

The other issue is...While we're watching the clown are we actually missing the 'devil' that would be the alternative.

Trump is promising prosperity, success and that winning feeling.....just like Hitler, and like Adolf you always need  a minority group or two to blame...Muslims and Mexicans in this case....
Nothing like a good military build up to get the economy moving as well.....more guns, planes etc means more jobs
I see plenty of similarities in Trump and AH but as you say America is a diverse group of people and there will be no Trump Reich in the States......problem I see is that none of the other candidates are offering any solutions to the issues Trump is raising....building a wall is a crazy idea as is banning all Muslims  etc etc  but there  are no solutions being offered to rebuke this madness just personal attacks on Trump which he seems a master at dealing with....

I think Hilary will win but she will need to do a very good job to keep the next Trump out of office because like AH people eventually look to a messiah to lead them to the promised land....and dont we we all know about messiah's on this forum....the names Denis and Mick come to mind..

[cookie2]

Trump is promising prosperity, success and that winning feeling.....just like Hitler, and like Adolf you always need  a minority group or two to blame...Muslims and Mexicans in this case....
Nothing like a good military build up to get the economy moving as well.....more guns, planes etc means more jobs
I see plenty of similarities in Trump and AH but as you say America is a diverse group of people and there will be no Trump Reich in the States......problem I see is that none of the other candidates are offering any solutions to the issues Trump is raising....building a wall is a crazy idea as is banning all Muslims  etc etc  but there  are no solutions being offered to rebuke this madness just personal attacks on Trump which he seems a master at dealing with....

I think Hilary will win but she will need to do a very good job to keep the next Trump out of office because like AH people eventually look to a messiah to lead them to the promised land....and dont we we all know about messiah's on this forum....the names Denis and Mick come to mind..

Not to mention the makers of bricks! That wall will need a fair few. 

[ItsOurTime]

problem I see is that none of the other candidates are offering any solutions to the issues Trump is raising....building a wall is a crazy idea as is banning all Muslims  etc etc  but there  are no solutions being offered to rebuke this madness just personal attacks on Trump which he seems a master at dealing with....

Closer to Pauline Hanson IMO people felt what she was saying was so ludicrous that they dismissed her and the public sides with the person being attacked as it looks like a bunch of pompous asses not giving someone a go. As soon as they began focussing on policy she basically imploded (though still hangs around)

[LP]

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Same vacant look! :o

[madbluboy]

Trump smashes Cruz in Indiana and Ted pulls out.

[Bear]

Well... have faith in the average American voter!  :o

I did like how Trump went with the tabloid accusation that Cruz's dad was involved with Lee Harvey Oswald.

[madbluboy]

Well... have faith in the average American voter!  :o

I did like how Trump went with the tabloid accusation that Cruz's dad was involved with Lee Harvey Oswald.

and then when Cruz imploded he tweets

Wow, Lyin' Ted Cruz really went wacko today. Made all sorts of crazy charges. Can't function under pressure - not very presidential. Sad!

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[Mav]

Can Trump "Make America White Again"?