Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[ElwoodBlues1]

Biden incoherence masked how bad Trump was. Biden will be the headline in the end when trump should have been Grump. Can't lie, deflect through a debate and say you won even if he looked more forthright and coherent. Actual substance is important in a debate and Biden actually had quite a bit of that still. Just that it was tough to watch, Only part of the actual debate Trump won on was Immigration. In the current global cost of living situation Trump would have been a nightmare. Can't put on tariffs, make an utter mess with your trading partners and not expect an economic mess to come out of it in the current conditions.

Trump was waiting to be smashed and Biden wasn't coherent enough to follow through. A half decent Democrat would have slaughtered Trump.

After today I'd say Biden will be removed as candidate. Poor bugger is losing it mentally. Declined alot in the last 6 months. So different from his superb State of the Union address. Effects of aging hit fast unfortunately and can really suck. Biden, unfortunately, will be lucky to be alive and kicking in 2 years, by the look of him, let alone last a full term. Another candidate will belt Trump on today's effort as they could totally expose him. People are just looking for someone decent to beat him. Bookies have Biden a 3% less chance of winning after today but surprising don't give Trump any more chance of winning. Obviously expecting Biden to stand/be pushed aside.

A lot of people doing it tough in the USA, not a great time to be the incumbent president either with high cost of living, inflation etc and the standard of living declining. Usually that doesnt end well for the Government and Biden appears to be losing support from unlikely places such as younger black voters etc.
I cant see the Democrats winning unless the economy improves and Biden can reverse the dreadful immigration mess he created, those two issues are whats keeping Trump in front, its a bit like Hitler when he took over a Germany that was a economic mess, the public were prepared to vote anyone in that would promise to fix the problems and make it better.

[kruddler]

For those saying its just his speech impediment, I think you guys are having a lend.  The guy forgot what he was talking about mid sentence.

I'm not trump apologist, I can't believe they don't revolt with the garbage being served up and called politicians in that nation.  It's like a race to the bottom and every year they go lower.

As mentioned, i haven't see it all, far from it, but i've seen this exact thing happen to my mate.
He looks like he's completely lost track of where he was and just pauses. I quizzed him about it and thats when he told me what he is doing and why its happening.

May or may not be the same thing with Biden.

[dodge]

If the democrats want to win, Biden must be replaced at the August Dem convention.

The little I saw, he was confusing millions, billions and trillions.

Trump just makes stuff up.

The tete-a-tete about golf was bizarre.

[Thryleon]

As mentioned, i haven't see it all, far from it, but i've seen this exact thing happen to my mate.
He looks like he's completely lost track of where he was and just pauses. I quizzed him about it and thats when he told me what he is doing and why its happening.

May or may not be the same thing with Biden.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/...7313015082

[kruddler]

https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/...7313015082

I've seen that.

I stand by my statement.

[Thryleon]

Did you see the ramble before that?  Was disgraceful.  Ended up with some random incoherent stuff. 

[Lods]

Some folks who know Biden really well, and in fact stated that they 'love' him, have described his performance in 'trainwreck' terms, which suggests it was a little more than a speech issue.

Stewart has little time for either of them as Presidential options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJr44m-w1Y

[madbluboy]

All the debate rules to help Biden backfired, he would have been better off if Trump was talking over him. Instead he was left exposed for the whole of the world to see. 

If they do another debate I would like to see it on the golf course.

[Baggers]

'A picture is worth a thousand words.' Today's illustration from Dyson in The Age sums up Biden and Trump -- and the plight of America -- with lacerating accuracy.

The burning question for the US is, 'how the hell did you end up with these two running for President?'

With obvious failing cognitive functions, Biden will only find it more difficult to manage his speech disorder (with more often failing to do so) making his cognitive deterioration seem worse. He certainly should not be the Democrat candidate, or in charge of anything, really.

As for Trump, well Biden's poor performance made him seem much better than his litany of lies portrayed. Biden's performance would have made an onion seem Einstein-esk. Trump is also obviously in cognitive decline, just not as dramatic, besides, he can always lean on his lies to see him through. He's still a sociopathic weasel, with apologies to weasels.

[Lods]

Biden was much more energised in a rally this morning.
Teleprompter vs free wheeling perhaps.

I think the Democrats have a choice, a responsibility even.
They are constantly saying..."Trump is the greatest threat to Democracy'
If they truly believe that then they have some hard decisions to make.
Do they continue with a candidate who is on a downward spiral, hoping he can turn it around, or do they make a move.
That may not be easy if Joe clings on...and who to replace him with if he does step aside.???