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(05-12-2023, 02:59 AM)Lods date Wrote:A whole range of conditions contributed to the rise of Nazism in Germany.
You could argue that some of those were externally imposed following the defeat in WW1.
But essentially, yes... it boils down to the 'wrong' person in the 'wrong' place at the 'wrong' time.
When you hear and see some of the stuff happening in the US, wrong time and wrong place might be more than valid.

At least in the US we can see what is happening, the media is large and unregulated, in China, India, Pakistan and Russia that is not the case.
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(05-12-2023, 04:30 AM)Mav link Wrote:Russia under Putin isn’t communist or even pretend-communist. It’s a Christian nationalist oligopoly or kleptocracy. That’s why right-wingers love Putin - he’s one of theirs.


Nah was more referring to the previous Soviet Union Russia and its leftist freedoms.

You know, the ones that ban religion and any questioning of the leader altogether?

Or is that nationalist fascist nowadays?

North Korea
China

These are Leftist communist nations, not fascist nationalist.

Islam was a tool used by the Ottoman empire to bring people into the yolk of Ottoman Rule.  It was the very thing that drove people away from the Byzantine empire, and sparked the renaissance.  This is where the muslim negativity stems from.  Not politics.  Your lens on Christianity is narrowed too much by what have you done for me lately ideals, and ignores history way too much.
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I can understand your antipathy towards the Ottoman Empire given that it treated Greeks as butt monkeys until the early 1800s. But your claim that the Renaissance was a reaction to Islamic proselytising is a bit bizarre. And let’s face it, the Roman Catholic Church was renowned for forcing Christianity down everyone’s throats and putting heretics to death. Don’t mention the Inquisition or you’ll get the comfy chair treatment.

I’d like to see all religions, Islam and Christianity included, kept out of politics. Anyone who wants to practice a religion should be free to do so but they shouldn’t be allowed to force non-believers to follow their edicts. Stay out of our lives and our bedrooms. In this respect, I agree with you that religion shouldn’t be forced on anyone.
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(05-12-2023, 09:13 AM)Mav link Wrote:I can understand your antipathy towards the Ottoman Empire given that it treated Greeks as butt monkeys until the early 1800s. But your claim that the Renaissance was a reaction to Islamic proselytising is a bit bizarre. And let’s face it, the Roman Catholic Church was renowned for forcing Christianity down everyone’s throats and putting heretics to death. Don’t mention the Inquisition or you’ll get the comfy chair treatment.

I’d like to see all religions, Islam and Christianity included, kept out of politics. Anyone who wants to practice a religion should be free to do so but they shouldn’t be allowed to force non-believers to follow their edicts. Stay out of our lives and our bedrooms. In this respect, I agree with you that religion shouldn’t be forced on anyone.
the renaissance was what happened after the fall of Constantinople.

All the people who fled the islamification of the sultan were the ones who kick-started the renaissance.





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I certainly congratulate you on the originality of your thesis.
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How Trump presidency could change Ukraine war, bbc.com.
Quote: In the UK, which is ramping up its assistance to Ukraine to now include long-range missiles, there are concerns about the implications of a Trump presidency.
If Mr Trump cuts off the supply of weapons, the war will end on Russian terms, which is the West's worst nightmare, says the former head of Britain's secret service, Sir Alex Younger.
"Putin didn't have a Plan B when he invaded Ukraine but this is now his Plan B - to wait it out."

Bashir al-Assad is an evil villain of the highest order who bombed Syrian civilians and used chemical weapons. But he wouldn’t have been able to win the civil war and remain if Putin hadn’t backed him. Surely, Putin was equally responsible for al-Assad’s war crimes. By the same token, if Trump cuts off aid to Ukraine and leaves Ukraine at the mercy of Russia’s war of annihilation, wouldn’t he share the sins of Putin? To give Putin victory in a war he started and is losing when Russian adventurism should be punished and deterred would make Trump a psychopath guilty of aiding and abetting mass murder. Siding with Putin’s dictatorship would be a historic low for the USA. Thank God FDR was the POTUS during WW2. If it had been Trump, we’d all be goosestepping in jackboots. I can just imagine Trump boasting of having letters from that really smart guy Adolf.
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If you ever needed evidence this bloke Trump is prepared to burn down the house to get his way, check out much of his media over the last 24hrs!

He isn't just a risk to US Democracy, he is a risk to democracy world wide! If he acts on some of his rhetoric he risks putting the EU to the sword by allowing Putin to functionally control energy for the bulk of Europe, that would leave Europe at the mercy of Russia and China, and that can't end end well!
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(08-25-2023, 06:17 AM)Lods link Wrote:[Image: DONALD-TRUMP-MUGSHOT.jpg]

Orange Steel  Big Grin

I was thinking - bronze scowl ?
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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I must have missed something when the Republican's (home of Mitch McConnell) publicly asserted the Democrats have no backup plan for the aging Joe Biden! :o

You can't invent this stuff, it's just too weird!
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