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(10-15-2020, 05:08 AM)Mav date Wrote:I wouldn’t say media. The right wing echo chamber is involved but the media is treating it sceptically. Media is a broad term, which includes not just mainstream but social media, the likes of FB, Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Reddit, etc., etc..
The state actors play them like a fiddle!
If you are interested, utilities like the Wayback Machine and Internet Archive allow people to trace a lot of these conspiracies back to the root cause. It's not as hard as people think to find the source, just that it is not in the skill set of Joe Average. Joe looks at the scope of the problem and thinks "How could anybody know", the actual crime is that mainstream media and social media know exactly and yet choose profit over truth. It is a sick system!
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(10-15-2020, 04:27 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Sure, but new evidence has apparently surfaced since then which could change all of that - that's what prompted this discussion.
Hasn’t the so-called new evidence had been dismissed as a Newscorpse fabrication?
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(10-15-2020, 05:45 AM)DJC link Wrote:Hasn’t the so-called new evidence had been dismissed as a Newscorpse fabrication? Who dismissed it?
Reality always wins in the end.
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(10-15-2020, 05:47 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:Who dismissed it? Given News Corps love of circular references, I suspect ............................. News Corp!
Usually in the form of Full New York Front Page, news break, bulletin leading headline today, followed by small isolated local regional blurb Page. 65 technical clarification tomorrow, framed in a low contrast font and positioned below a full colour bare breasted tattooed angel called Baby! In regions where nudity offends, in the 3rd last column of the wanted Ads under a heading of Possible Correction.
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(10-15-2020, 05:45 AM)DJC link Wrote:Hasn’t the so-called new evidence had been dismissed as a Newscorpse fabrication?
So why has the Twitter CEO (seemingly) aplogised for the ban?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12932483/t...oop-trump/
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Didn't you read my circular reference comment? :o
The Sun UK, owner News UK(Parent company News Corp Ltd.)
The Sun UK, charging fearlessly and headlong to the defence of the New York Post(Parent company News Corp Ltd!)
Akin to claiming this is true, because we said it's true!
The big problem isn't noticing or exposing this practise, the big problem is that once it is exposed you will struggle to find a source that isn't already bastardised!
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(10-15-2020, 06:03 AM)LP link Wrote:Didn't you read my circular reference comment? :o
The Sun UK, owner News UK(Parent company News Corp Ltd.)
The Sun UK, charging fearlessly and headlong to the defence of the New York Post(Parent company News Corp Ltd!)
Akin to claiming this is true, because we said it's true!
The big problem isn't noticing or exposing this practise, the big problem is that once it is exposed you will struggle to find a source that isn't already bastardised!
Don't play me for dumb. I know that ... why do you think I said "seemingly" > 
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Last Exit From Autocracy, The Atlantic.
This is from David Frum, a speechwriter for George Dubya. His thesis is that democracy won’t survive another 4 years of Trump.
Does this foreshadow an endorsement of Biden by George Dubya? Would such an endorsement help Biden?
No doubt Trump would explode if this happens. Would that cause him to lose focus on Biden?
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(10-15-2020, 05:47 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Who dismissed it?
At this stage, the story has been dismissed by the independent media, social media and Joe Biden's camp. The only supporters are Newscorpse, and that's hardly something to hang your hat on. When you think about it, what are the chances of a laptop with highly sensitive emails being left at a computer repair shop? : 
I expect that there will be a retraction from Newscorpse in the coming days, but the damage will have been done.
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We should have learnt our lesson.
Expect the unexpected...
Take a break for a bit and read, rinse and recycle the first twenty or so pages of this thread...it's pretty funny how set we were in our opinions (which haven't shifted much).
(02-01-2016, 05:07 AM)tonyo link Wrote:If Trump becomes the President of the USA, I am moving to the moon.......
How's the weather up there today tonyo. 
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