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(10-11-2020, 09:33 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Read somewhere that she does not have the voter appeal to be the Prez candidate, in fact is disliked by too many people.
She has 3 strikes against her: she’s a woman, Black & Asian. That means at least a third of the population is against her. At least Tiger Woods is a bloke! Heads will explode if in 2004 it’s Harris v Nikki Haley.

Having said that, Harris’ accent annoys me but I presume it’s just the accent of the place in which she grew up. It also reminds me of some cartoon character, maybe the wife on Family Guy? The other thing that annoys is a tendency to act as if she’s about to say something earth-shattering with a bit of posturing and a long pause. But if she does get the big job and does well, I can live with that.
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Understand that she's not too popular with black males.
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Some believe her work as a DA would put off younger black men as might anyone who’d been a cop or prosecutor. Is that just the right-wing echo chamber hoping to make it a thing or is it a real issue? Who knows ...

Was she just doing her job as a prosecutor (working in a system that was probably loaded against blacks) or did she cross lines? I haven’t read anything that might answer that question.

Her work as a prosecutor may also comfort more centrist voters. It also creates a problem for the GOP: can she be both a BLM revolutionary and too tough on blacks? No doubt the hope is that they can use targetted advertising on social media to paint her as the former to white people and the latter to black men.
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(10-11-2020, 11:48 PM)Mav link Wrote:Some believe her work as a DA would put off younger black men as might anyone who’d been a cop or prosecutor. Is that just the right-wing echo chamber hoping to make it a thing or is it a real issue? Who knows ...

Was she just doing her job as a prosecutor (working in a system that was probably loaded against blacks) or did she cross lines? I haven’t read anything that might answer that question.

Her work as a prosecutor may also comfort more centrist voters. It also creates a problem for the GOP: can she be both a BLM revolutionary and too tough on blacks? No doubt the hope is that they can use targetted advertising on social media to paint her as the former to white people and the latter to black men.

Yep, easy for the media to paint people - even orange!
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I thought it was Trump who painted himself orange.
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(10-12-2020, 12:11 AM)Mav link Wrote:I thought it was Trump who painted himself orange.

I don't doubt that.
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(10-11-2020, 11:44 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Why are most of Americans presidentential candidates old and senile? 

My sisters father in law at their age drive a car into a stationary fence and didn't even realise he had clipped it. 

My mum's 69 and she is starting to become forgetful and has more health issues than ever before.

American Presidents are fronts for a machine driven by faceless people that do the 'advising'.  The machine, whether it be Democrat or Republican, needs a face with populist charisma to get its agenda into the driving seat.  Donald's problem is he actually thinks he is the supreme leader, and when he doesn't agree with the machine, he sacks someone (there have been a few that have be shown the door....).  Most of the rest have learned to say the right things.

I would suggest that many Republican politicians would be happy to see the end of Donald because he is a loose cannon, but the problem is his popularity with certain segments of the US population has meant that these same politicians get to keep their seats in Congress.

I honestly thought the COVID positive thing was a ploy to have him 'stand aside' with no political blood-letting involved....... maybe they didn't count on his ego getting in the way?
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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(10-12-2020, 12:24 AM)tonyo link Wrote:American Presidents are fronts for a machine driven by faceless people that do the 'advising'.  The machine, whether it be Democrat or Republican, needs a face with populist charisma to get its agenda into the driving seat.  Donald's problem is he actually thinks he is the supreme leader, and when he doesn't agree with the machine, he sacks someone (there have been a few that have be shown the door....).  Most of the rest have learned to say the right things.

I would suggest that many Republican politicians would be happy to see the end of Donald because he is a loose cannon, but the problem is his popularity with certain segments of the US population has meant that these same politicians get to keep their seats in Congress.

I honestly thought the COVID positive thing was a ploy to have him 'stand aside' with no political blood-letting involved....... maybe they didn't count on his ego getting in the way?

Don't misunderstand, I do believe that modern democracy is giving people the illusion of choice, whilst corporations and faceless people rule the nations, but I dont understand why they appoint someone who is ill equipped to provide the proper illusion of choice rather than these old guys who seem to be the physical representation of uncle sam.

What do they know about life?  These rich oligarchs who have been spoon fed their entire lives tend to run nations who are comprised of exactly the type of people they would never associate with aside from servitude.

Hell you could buy off anyone for half the money to do their advisors bidding.  I think this is the exact reason Trump is in power mind you.  The general public see him as someone that is one of them, but is too stupid to keep his mouth shut and then allows the general public to understand exactly where they sit in societal heirarchy.  Its why he appeals to the lowest denominator.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(10-12-2020, 12:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Don't misunderstand, I do believe that modern democracy is giving people the illusion of choice, whilst corporations and faceless people rule the nations, but I dont understand why they appoint someone who is ill equipped to provide the proper illusion of choice rather than these old guys who seem to be the physical representation of uncle sam.

What do they know about life?  These rich oligarchs who have been spoon fed their entire lives tend to run nations who are comprised of exactly the type of people they would never associate with aside from servitude.

Hell you could buy off anyone for half the money to do their advisors bidding.  I think this is the exact reason Trump is in power mind you.  The general public see him as someone that is one of them, but is too stupid to keep his mouth shut and then allows the general public to understand exactly where they sit in societal heirarchy.  Its why he appeals to the lowest denominator.
I don't disagree.  As a rolled gold narcissist, I think Donald is more keen on the notoriety than the power.  Now, everyone in the world listens to him.

The challenge for the Democrats was to provide an alternative - I am sure that is why Biden is there, because he represents a safe choice, ie a well-known older white guy with no spooky agendas.  Not necessarily great in terms of a forward-thinking approach, but probably inoffensive enough to win an election.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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Yep, the name of the game is to win elections. Having done that they can get on with business,  ie government of the people  by the oligarchy for the oligarchy. Whatever happened to the true republic?
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