Poll: Do you think Crippa will win the rising star? Take emotion out of it when choosing :)
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Will Crippa win the rising star?
@DJC

Told you so!!  Tongue

In all seriousness it doesnt matter.  It was always going to be a matter of him having to build a profile before getting too many votes, and IMHO, although he had a better impact than his votes reflected, I think he did well to poll as well as he did given simply how few games we won.
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(09-30-2015, 01:19 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:@DJC

Told you so!!  Tongue

In all seriousness it doesnt matter.  It was always going to be a matter of him having to build a profile before getting too many votes, and IMHO, although he had a better impact than his votes reflected, I think he did well to poll as well as he did given simply how few games we won.
Clearly the AFL coaches rate him pretty highly - not too far behind Bontempelli in the Young Players award (based on their performances in their first two years)

Best Young Player

1. Marcus Bontempelli - Western Bulldogs (557 votes)

2. Patrick Cripps – Carlton (527 votes)

3. Jeremy McGovern - West Coast (362 votes)

Jesse Hogan still only a first year player so I guess he'll win it next year.....

This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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(09-10-2015, 12:05 PM)kruddler link Wrote:We gave him BOG.

The Votes: Round #4 Carlton vs. St. Kilda
Cripps, Patrick 370
Murphy, Marc 258
Henderson, Lachie 258
Bell, Tom 167
Everitt, Andrejs 64
Simpson, Kade 62
Tuohy, Zach 55
Armfield, Dennis 19
Walker, Andrew 19
Wood, Cameron 12
Carrazzo, Andrew 5

EDIT:
....and the coaches gave him =BOG.
St Kilda v Carlton

8 – Patrick Cripps (Carl)

8 – Marc Murphy (Carl)

5 – Tom Bell (Carl)

4 – Lachie Henderson (Carl)

2 – Ed Curnow (Carl)

2 – Zach Tuohy (Carl)

1 – David Armitage (St K)

Zero Brownlow votes lol.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(09-30-2015, 02:35 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Clearly the AFL coaches rate him pretty highly - not too far behind Bontempelli in the Young Players award (based on their performances in their first two years)

Best Young Player

1. Marcus Bontempelli - Western Bulldogs (557 votes)

2. Patrick Cripps – Carlton (527 votes)

3. Jeremy McGovern - West Coast (362 votes)

Jesse Hogan still only a first year player so I guess he'll win it next year.....

Every alternative award that gets announced just highlights further how inequitable the Rising Star Award has become, insiders voting for their favorites and almost unrelated to form, efficiency or effectiveness!
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(09-30-2015, 02:49 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Zero Brownlow votes lol.

Which is why having the leagues most coveted 'best and fairest' award being voted on by umpires is a crock.
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(09-30-2015, 09:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Which is why having the leagues most coveted 'best and fairest' award being voted on by umpires is a crock.

Been saying it since Woewodin won in 2000. Also you look back at Diesel and umpire Russo. Umpires can't even get the decisions right, how can they be relied upon to pick the best player.
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I hope everyone can temper their expectations of Cripps for next year. While I expect him to become a great 200+ game player for us, I also kind of expect him to have some 2nd year blues next year.

He hasn't really been tagged yet, next year clubs will put a lot more time into trying to stop him. Until he learns to play with high expectations and a lot closer attention from opposition teams his output may be lower than we are expecting of him.

Let him get to 50 games and then really watch him take off !!
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(09-30-2015, 09:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Which is why having the leagues most coveted 'best and fairest' award being voted on by umpires is a crock.

The AFL and TV stations are always going to pump it up as it's a big money spinner and changing the voting may put people off. End result was right.
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(09-30-2015, 09:59 AM)Amers link Wrote:I hope everyone can temper their expectations of Cripps for next year. While I expect him to become a great 200+ game player for us, I also kind of expect him to have some 2nd year blues next year.

He hasn't really been tagged yet, next year clubs will put a lot more time into trying to stop him. Until he learns to play with high expectations and a lot closer attention from opposition teams his output may be lower than we are expecting of him.

Let him get to 50 games and then really watch him take off !!
Not quite true, although it has only happened a few times as yet. Melbourne tried it and Cripps prospered.
However, you are correct. having mad an impression this year, opposition clubs will be on the lookout for him next year. How effective their countermeasures will be will depend on how guys like Gibbs come up from injury and if we get another good young mid to make an impression. Most teams don't like too many tags, so if our mids step up, it will be a lot harder to hold any particular one down.

The other thing in his favour is that he is tall enough to be a useful marking target when 'resting' forward. One way to break the tag would be to start him forward and see if the tagger can handle a strong guy who is taller than John Nicholls.
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(09-30-2015, 09:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Which is why having the leagues most coveted 'best and fairest' award being voted on by umpires is a crock.

You would have a point if it was the 'best and fairest' award.  However, it is the 'fairest and best ' award and I reckon umpires are best placed to determine who that is.
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