Round 17 Carlton vs Hawthorn Pre Game Pontifications

[cookie2]

Why in the name of Jehova would we need to tank against the Hawks???  Seriously....... :

[DJC]

Why in the name of Jehova would we need to tank against the Hawks???  Seriously....... :

Tongue firmly in cheek Cookie 

It should have been a good opportunity to put a competitive side on the park while giving some promising young blokes an opportunity to show what they can do.  Recalling Jones isn't paramount to tanking but it does smack of the club trying to sugar coat a list management blunder.

[cimm1979]

Not sure how Walsh kept his position either TBH.

What didn't you like about his 1/4 of football?

We've been screaming about the treatment Graham got.

[PassIt2Carrots]

What didn't you like about his 1/4 of football?

We've been screaming about the treatment Graham got.

Well, he didn't really get near it TBH. Didn't look likely. I guess we don't really have anything to lose by playing him. I'm more pissed about Everitt getting a game.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I suspect we're tanking; Liam Jones is back  :


Backs 43. Simon White 17. Sam Rowe 40. Michael Jamison
Half-backs 13. Chris Yarran 42. Zach Tuohy 7. Dylan Buckley
Centreline 6. Kade Simpson 3. Marc Murphy © 15. Sam Docherty
Half-forwards 2. Troy Menzel 28. Tom Bell 22. Jason Tutt
Forwards 41. Levi Casboult 23. Lachie Henderson 33. Andrejs Everitt
Followers 8. Matthew Kreuzer 9. Patrick Cripps 35. Ed Curnow
Interchange 12. Blaine Boekhorst 14. Liam Jones 20. Nick Holman
34. Brad Walsh
Emergencies 18. Kristian Jaksch 30. Blaine Johnson 24. Mark Whiley
In: Jones, Boekhorst

Out: Carrazzo (foot), Fields (omitted)

I really can't see how Jones could get a game ahead of Jaksch, but then I couldn't see why we added to him to our list either.

I would have kept Fields in the side ahead of Tutt too.  The latter is an honest trier but he really lacks awareness an dis going to brushed aside by the Hawks.

Agree....Fields would learn more playing Hawthorn than he would in half a season of VFL footy, how Jones gets a game ahead of Jaksch is absurd...so much for form in the NB's
being the criteria for selection.....Boekhorst didnt do enough either to get a game although I dont mind seeing him get another chance to show something vs a team that are going to be physical which will be a test for him. Good to see Walsh retained and hope he gets a good lack at Sam Mitchell close up to see how its done...

[cimm1979]

Well, he didn't really get near it TBH. Didn't look likely. I guess we don't really have anything to lose by playing him. I'm more pissed about Everitt getting a game.

Well, that's why they are picking him.

I think he may be a better long term prospect than Nick G TBH.

[cimm1979]

Agree....Fields would learn more playing Hawthorn than he would in half a season of VFL footy, how Jones gets a game ahead of Jaksch is absurd...so much for form in the NB's
being the criteria for selection.....Boekhorst didnt do enough either to get a game although I dont mind seeing him get another chance to show something vs a team that are going to be physical which will be a test for him. Good to see Walsh retained and hope he gets a good lack at Sam Mitchell close up to see how its done...

Jones has more game experience.

Still think they are trying to get the balance right of playing kids but not traumatising them, which is bloody hard with so many kids.

Looks pretty obvious to me Barker is doing everything he can to get them in.

.....and lets face it, compared to the bloke before he's a revolutionary.

[Vivian]

Putting KJ in now would unbalance tbe backline a great deal. We already have two tall defenders in Rowe and Jamison. And i see little point to  throw him forward and disrupt his string of consistent footy in the ressies. He will be a very good recruit for the club. He is a young KP  that needs time to develop and fill out. Plenty of opportunities in the future.

Guess jones gets another crack; perhaps there is a view that the hawthorn defence struggles a bit in the air at the moment. Can't see it myself, and the ball will come out of our forward line awfully fast bar heroic efforts from our mob. Something needs to click for him. He seems to have some good attributes but doesnt run the right patterns. He has a chance.

Be good to see Boekhorst again. Another player that is only in his first year but will develop into a good footballer for us. Big jump to the AFL, regardless of the 'maturity' of the player.

Gosh we look weak. What a difference half a season makes.

[blue4life]

I meant Jones B4L.  I reckon Jaksch has a future with us.

One would hope so seeing he cost us pick 7.
I saw him play in the VFL a fortnight ago and he had a good game but it's a worry that he can't force his way into such a weak side.
I don't buy the "big blokes take longer" line, the good ones don't.

[cookie2]

Tongue firmly in cheek Cookie 

It should have been a good opportunity to put a competitive side on the park while giving some promising young blokes an opportunity to show what they can do.  Recalling Jones isn't paramount to tanking but it does smack of the club trying to sugar coat a list management blunder.

OK!  )

Agree about Jones btw.