Carlton v Fremantle- Post Match

[Lods]

We'll lock the game thread up shortly.
Let's concentrate on discussion of the game in this one

Not a bad effort for three quarters....but washed away in the last
Quite a few passengers tonight.

[BluePhantom]

When does this year finish?

[MosquitoFleet]

When does this year finish?

Round 1 2015

[blue4life]

With that many spuds in the side it was never going to be any different, only Freo's showboating saved us from a 60 or 70 point walloping.
We have no key position players, none, nada, zilch, it's going to be a long road back.

[bigblue]

I dont see what every1 else must see in Menzel. He does sweet f all. Lots of players down tonight......too many. Cas has to learn to impose himself. The ball was never kicked well too him  or not even in his general direction but hes got to learn that in games like that, hes got to impose his body and strength and compete. He seemed to give up and get pushed off theball too easily.

AFAIC Yarran and Hendo can pack their bags now. They are a shadow of their former selves. Yazz is bordering on being an imposter.

Gameplan. What is it.. ? Why on earth would you kick the ball backward 50 meters if you have posession forward of the wing? Got me stuffed why we go back and sideways so often when the obvious play is to give our fwds the best chance of marking it and getting the ball I50 quickly.

Mm frustrated me. We might be competing better for longer in games but JB aint instilling me with much confidence either with this game plan.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Ugly game and we hung in there for a while but in the end some of our blokes just stopped trying...with the Hwaks next week it could be a 20 goal plus beating if we dont
play 4 quarters and at least keep them honest..

Yarran....ok at times and horrible at times like he didnt care...not sure where his future is

Jamo....lousy start but seemed to recover his composure...

Henderson.....couple of good things mixed with some ordinary efforts including easy dropped marks, poor ball use.....see Chris Yarran ..

Docherty...good and showed fine attack on the footy..probably has the B&F in the bag//

Simpson.....did ok but wasnt his usual  effective self IMO.

Buckley... liked his game, mixed it and beat Ballaantyne but can turn it over... though I dont mind that when you are trying to create something and the lad has a go.

Fields.....another education for Tom.....

Touhy...not for me tonight, wasnt taken with his game at all and thought he put the cue in the rack and wasnt that interested..

Everitt...one nice goal and nothing else...lacked intent on the ball and played bruise free footy...needs dropping to the NB's

Menzel...subbed out after one goal and not much else..not sure if injured..

Walsh.. subbed in for Menzel and found Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow and crew a fair step up from the VFL....got caught between contests and obviously needs
game time and educating how to read the game..

Murphy....had DeBoer for company who knocked him around, tried hard but didnt impact..

Curnow...plenty of ball, worked hard but his disposal is atrocious....

Bell...couple of handy goals along with some typical brain dead ball usage....

Casboult....never got near it all night and he was playing on a no name player ..Pearce from memory...not good enough...

Kruezer...got smacked in the ruck but worked hard around the ground...tired in the end and Sandy had a picnic in the ruck...

Tutt....for the King its probably a reasonable game but he turns the ball over with timid play and isnt up to it...wouldnt be sleeping well knowing its the Hawks next week.

Cripps...tougher night at the office with Freo's star mids in action but he battled on and would have learned something...

Holman...just went, kicking was ordinary and he needs a couple of big games to secure his spot on the list.

Carrazzo..not a big night and weight of numbers with Freos mids made life hard...

White....ok on superstar Fyfe in a Crowley type role and did limit the brownlow favourite....

Rowe....poor game and looked like a SANFL player...

[laj]

I dont see what every1 else must see in Menzel. He does sweet f all.

Menzel has missed quite a few games with injury and certainly not fit. Think that's obvious to anyone that knows anything. People just don't want to see that. He's shown he can play during his first 2 years.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Dylan Buckley 23 touches at 87% disposal efficiency. Only one clanger in the game. Not bad for a kid hell bent on taking the game on. One massive positive to take out of the game. Beats his man as well.

Holman coming along nicely definitely looks up to the tempo of AFL football.

Simon White amazing effort I think he beat Fyfe tonight Fyfe had little to no influence on the game and White kicked a goal.

Rowe and Everitt were poo both need to taste some reserves action. I don't even  want to think about Yarran and hendo just a terrible situation to be in both are losing value on the trade table at a rapid rate we may get very little for them in the end.

[Brettie]

Watched the first 10 mins, wasn't at all enamoured with the game, couldn't see us winning and that was it for me, apart from score/stat updates on the AFL app. Real happy I didn't stick around to watch what must've been a horrific last quarter that could've been so much worse.

Don't think I've dreaded a game as much as I'm dreading next Friday night......

[Mantis]

No real champions tonight. I was amazed to see we had 74 tackles which I thought we actually had way less. The effective tackles would have been far fewer. We did play the top side and were in the game up until the last quarter. No score at all in the last is a complete joke IMO. No matter who you play, and no matter what the conditions are.

Funny thing is that our more dangerous players of the past were Henderson, Menzel and Yarram. Yet in more recent games they are our biggest passengers. I really am not happy with this game tonight at all. Fair call that we did try to keep us in the contest and game for most of the game. However, Freo let us off the hook by turning the ball over too often. Their coach will be furious with their performance. If we bring what we did tonight against Hawthorn, we better expect a 100 point loss. They know how to crush sides.

There are a few positives, but I will need to see the replay to see what they were. Sure Kreuzer struggled against the bigger body Sandilands, but I still see him as being in our best 5. His second and third efforts always stand out. I just wish he could kick more goals for us. We lack the ability to put the pressure on the score board.  >