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Why So Different??
#11
The first and most significant difference I see is confidence... and that leads to boldness and great care for team mates. We seldom looked confident under MM.

But it is still early days, the challenge for JB and our leadership group is maintaining this high level of aggression at the aggott and the man. Maintaining it so consistently that it becomes the norm. It must become the norm. The early signs, however, are bl00dy great.

And as I long suspected and communicated a few times on this forum of recent times, this list is not quite as bad as people have made out. Gerard Whately had it right when he said, 'ordinary'. But not  'bad' as MM would have had us believe and had me believing in the first year and a bit of his toxic tenure. An 'ordinary' list with confidence can be highly competitive and win plenty of games. Great coaches and leaders have taken 'ordinary' lists deep into September. And the opposite is also true. Shizen leadership and coaching have seen amazing lists fail grandly (Grant Thomas?).

We do need to continue to recruit and develop well over the coming 2 drafts in particular and move our list from okay/ordinary to very good.

Seems to me that our blokes believe that their new Senior Coach believes in them, whereas, it seemed to me that the blokes didn't believe that MM believed in them. In fact it seemed that MM put his own interests ahead of the players as evidenced by his early agitation to get a contract renewal, which he subsequently said caused distraction within the group and justified our failure, if that makes sense. He undermined the players confidence.
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#12
(06-21-2015, 01:47 AM)Baggers link Wrote:And the opposite is also true. Shizen leadership and coaching have seen amazing lists fail grandly (Grant Thomas?).

Yet some refuse to accept the coach has anything to do with it!

So many examples of dud coaches and administrations screwing the team over, Sth Melb/Sydney is littered with a similar history! FFS, they had Edelstein in charge, and we have him back that is a tell!

Let go of those teats Carlton, you are sucking down poison!
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#13
What staggers me is that, despite our obvious failings, we are close to the best contested ball and clearance team in the league but we are only just starting to play to that strength.  Win the ball and rush it forward and defensive issues get negated.
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#14
(06-21-2015, 03:42 AM)Professer E link Wrote:What staggers me is that, despite our obvious failings, we are close to the best contested ball and clearance team in the league but we are only just starting to play to that strength.  Win the ball and rush it forward and defensive issues get negated.

You mean play to your strengths and work slowly on the problems?

Radical!!!
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#15
Probably a naive view but it looks like Ratten had them playing a certain way - Mick tried for 2 years to get them to do something else with limited success.

It has taken Barker 3 weeks to get them back to playing how they were under Ratten.

I said during the second quarter when we really got on top - that was the best our team has played in nearly 2 years. Since we beat Port over there in rnd 23 2013 then Richmond in the first final.
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#16
All this talk about the gameplan fixing our goal kicking is rather oversimplistic. Sure, the trends match up, but that doesn't make it the cause.

You know what else lines up with our improved goal kicking? The appointment of a goal kicking coach! Sav Rocca could probably take a fair bit of credit for it as well i'd suggest. Levi has been a lot better since Rocca has come on board.

Sav Rocca was appointed April 13th 2016 so says an article i just found.

Levi Casboult from his debut to his last match before Rocca came on board
31.33 @48%
Since Rocca came on board
12.4 @75%

Now i'm not suggested he is the be all and end all, but i am suggesting that there is no one cause that is.
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#17
(06-21-2015, 09:55 AM)kruddler link Wrote:All this talk about the gameplan fixing our goal kicking is rather oversimplistic. Sure, the trends match up, but that doesn't make it the cause.

You know what else lines up with our improved goal kicking? The appointment of a goal kicking coach! Sav Rocca could probably take a fair bit of credit for it as well i'd suggest. Levi has been a lot better since Rocca has come on board.

Sav Rocca was appointed April 13th 2016 so says an article i just found.

Levi Casboult from his debut to his last match before Rocca came on board
31.33 @48%
Since Rocca came on board
12.4 @75%

Now i'm not suggested he is the be all and end all, but i am suggesting that there is no one cause that is.

Just a coincidence that we playing better then? :Smile ;D ;D ;D ;D

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#18
(06-21-2015, 09:58 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Just a coincidence that we playing better then? :Smile ;D ;D ;D ;D

No, it's a whole range of things....as i suggested.

We have been playing a lot better since Kreuzer came back. (same exact time Barker became coach). Perhaps it is Kreuzer, not Barker not Rocca.

Our injury list is about as short as its been all year. Coincidence?

The shock of a senior coach getting the sack ALWAYS gets some improvement from the team. How long it lasts and how much improvement varies. Thats what we need to work through.

FWIW, i think its all of the above...and probably then some!
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#19
(06-21-2015, 10:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:No, it's a whole range of things....as i suggested.

We have been playing a lot better since Kreuzer came back. (same exact time Barker became coach). Perhaps it is Kreuzer, not Barker not Rocca.

Our injury list is about as short as its been all year. Coincidence?

The shock of a senior coach getting the sack ALWAYS gets some improvement from the team. How long it lasts and how much improvement varies. Thats what we need to work through.

FWIW, i think its all of the above...and probably then some!

Looks pretty simple to me.

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#20
Reading all the previous posts it would be easiest to just cut and paste a line or two from each before and have a detailed reason for our accuracy.

* Confidence and self belief in all players self belief, and trust in their team-mates.
* Working on goal kicking with Levi and others might be working on this too.
* Game plan that gets the ball forward and catches defenders off guard.
* Not coming through the flanks, but through the corridor to eliminate the angles.
* Players belief that the coach trusts their abilities and backs them to give everything a go.
* Its probably all these and more. The main thing is things are on the improve. Nobody can reject that. We are competitive and trying to win games rather than just play in self preservation mode. Not playing for contracts. Although until we sign Henderson, he may be looking to boost his stocks.
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