View Beyond the Shades - Analysis

[shadesy]

Maybe it was an inability to hit a target by foot that was the bigger issue??

If he aimed for a spot and missed by a 5-10 metres, this would be your result.

Nah, Malthouse is gone, our issues should be fixed because we'll use the corridoor rather than the boundary at least that seems to be the attitude anyway.

I suggest you watch the footage Thry, see him turn his body towards the corridor. it was a poor kick, but he was aiming in that general area.

I will ignore the other comment, as that is not the time, nor place to move it into the corridor.

[Thryleon]

I suggest you watch the footage Thry, see him turn his body towards the corridor. it was a poor kick, but he was aiming in that general area.

I will ignore the other comment, as that is not the time, nor place to move it into the corridor.

So he kicked it exactly as he wanted it to the wrong target because he was aiming in that general area....

Who was he trying to pass the ball to?

I don't buy that he kicked it into space on purpose and if that's what your selling, then snake oil salesman isnt your go.  This observation of yours is fine and has merit but it needs to be analysed accordingly.

It tells us that Walker executed his kick poorly.

He has chosen his target poorly which has led to him missing his target by foot.  be it a kick he had no chance of hitting (over ambitious with his target) or a kick that he didnt execute well and missed his target, the moral of the story is that he missed his target.  You can make up with poor kick selection by having excellent ability to hit targets, but that just kicks the error to the next point of failure if the bloke is under pressure and sets him up for a spilled mark, or posession under pressure with no target to hit up next.

I suppose the question I will ask is, aside from moving him down field, how does this help Walker kick the ball to a target better next time?  Simply moving him into a different area of the field relocates the issue rather than fixes the poor kick doesnt it?

[PassIt2Carrots]

Excellent summary Shadesy, looking forward to some more.

[crashlander]

Kicking is not 1AWs strong suit, I have no idea why we keep playing him back!

Andrew has probably played his most disciplined and consistent football in defence, which does say something. Probably his best year was in attack. But that year his kicking for goal was statistically the best in the competition. He took the most marks of his career, including his highlight mark against Essendon. Our mids had a lot of confidence in him and picked him out by choice, and, with Betts and Garlett picking up the tag, he managed to get a few crumbs as well.
Since then his forward play has been poor to non existent. When played there recently he simply hasn't worked hard enough and had a minimal number of possessions. His kicking for goal has been unbelievably bad and his team mates haven't had any confidence in him at all. He hasn't got any crumbs because he hasn't been close to the contest and he hasn't had any marks at all.
I am not sure that it is just a confidence thing either. I am sure that our forward structures and general forward movement would make things difficult for God if he were in our forward line.
As a result he has been played where he concentrates best: defence. Alas, he hasn't shown any run and he has been completely reactive. But that is where Andrew is at the moment. He is so far from his best form that it is hard recognizing him as the same player who destroyed Milne a couple of years back, or who kick about 50 goals in a season.

Over the years lots of supporters have bagged the blokes we tried to turn into KPFs, but the reality is with the delivery they get from our team(Our team the worst kicking team in the AFL by some comfortable margin) they had virtually no hope of developing as forwards!

Our delivery has been pretty ordinary this century. We were complaining (and rightly) when Fev lead out and the ball went just about anywhere except to his advantage. We have a handful of truly skilled players and even they are butchering the ball at the moment. About the last one who could reliably hit targets was Houlihan!
I am sure our delivery will get better when we are not under so much perceived pressure. I am sure much of our game plan will look better when we get the ball out of the middle with ease instead of under the pump (the norm at this time). I am sure it will get better when we have more talent in our lineup and I am absolutely certain our delivery will be better when we have the forward structures and game plan to maximize what we have instead of minimizing it (the bomb and hope plan we presently 'enjoy').

[madbluboy]

I think he's finished and we should delist him.

[ItsOurTime]

I think he's finished and we should delist him.

Has a contract and we have enough ordinary players that he'll get another gig helping with the rebuild IMO.

[LP]

Another triumph for the Carlton Football club development program. :

You mean our development coaches screwed up a perfectly good player, wasn't 1AW the next Kouta? :

My finest memory in the last 5 years is 1AW standing on Jake Carlisle's head, that event proved a few things for me;

- 1AW was a far better forward than defender.

- Carlisle is over-rated.

- Carlton will never be fairly judged while Ch.7 and certain broadcast personalities remain so heavily influential in AFL.

- Luke Darcy is an imbecile.

- Carlton doesn't complain strongly enough when it's disrespected.

- Our supporters in the media are a bunch of turtles!

[shadesy]

@ Thry

I'm not sure what your argument is.

He made a poor decision and a poor kick? What's not to get?

He kicks to this area very often coming out of the backline.

[Thryleon]

@ Thry

I'm not sure what your argument is.

He made a poor decision and a poor kick? What's not to get?

He kicks to this area very often coming out of the backline.

I'll get to it.  Bear with me.  Sometimes, I need people to get to a certain spot, so that I can present an argument without it being dismissed as BS or some misguided belief in Malthouse.

The part in bold is the key to fixing our woes.

Get people making better decisions, and executing better under pressure.  Walker is a soft target.  Has probably had the worst last 2 years out of everyone on our list, bar Kreuzer and Giles.

Aside from that, this part in bold applies to almost every player on our list in varying capacities.  The modern game relies on the ability to maintain posession and moving the ball quickly.  If we are a team of poor kicks and decision making why are we wondering why we are sitting bottom of the ladder and unable to compete?

The answer to that question was apparently to do with Malthouse and his coaching, but last I checked a new coach and game plan wont rectify an inability to hit targets and improve the ability to make good decisions on the field.

We can take the degree of difficulty out of the equation by changing the game plan, or we can even make it easier by changing the position (which seems to be what you are advocating here and that will possibly work) but it will not take us to where we need to go.  I cannot think of a premiership team that made poor decisions and butchered the ball by foot and accomodated players in areas to lessen that impact. Something we have done for too long.

[kruddler]

I think you've over analysed the whole thing personally.

Personally i think Tuohy made the mistake by kicking it to Walker in the first place.

Looking at the above picture, Tuohy should've kicked it out to the flank. Can't quite pick out all the players there, but we have outnumbered them on that side...and even if we lose the ball, Walker can cover the only 'free' Sydney player.

Yarran gets front and square to get the crumbs, or a quick handball, and he's off to the races down the wing.

I understand why Tuohy went where he did, to create the overlap, but it is the safe option, and with the score the way it was, no point playing safe....especially when it doesn't work. Tuohy is one of the best kicks in the game, he should trust his judgement more often.