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(05-04-2015, 06:05 AM)mateinone link Wrote:I don't think it matters as much who is up forward and who is down back, barring the odd specific contest.
What is more important is that the players understand where they should be running to based on where the ball is and who has possession. Carlton's formations are awful, those in the packs or running off half back have to search for options quickly, our opponents have a structure and know where their players will be running to.
This! The ball goes into our forward line and at best it's 2 tall forwards both going for it in amongst a cluster of defenders. Or best strategy is a fast small forwards running into the 50 which has now been picked apart.
It goes down the other end and it's all one on ones all with lots of space around them.
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(05-03-2015, 10:13 PM)Lods link Wrote:F: Buckley, Jamison, Walker
HF: Yarran, Rowe ,Tuohy
The funny thing about that is, that backline is probably a better kick than our forward line! :-\
What happened to the days that if you could kick, you were a forward. If you could not, you were a back.
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(05-04-2015, 07:53 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The funny thing about that is, that backline is probably a better kick than our forward line! :-\
What happened to the days that if you could kick, you were a forward. If you could not, you were a back.
Turn overs kill.
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(05-04-2015, 08:00 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Turn overs kill.
Yes they do.
Have a look at our clearances, specifically centre clearances. We win that every week. We just can't convert on the scoreboard.
If we get the ball out of the centre more than the opposition. Kick goals when we do. We win the game regardless of what happens down back. 
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(05-04-2015, 07:05 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yes, this isnt kindergarten football, this is the level where 22 individuals playing football on the same page will achieve more, than 22 individuals which is what you guys seem to be overly focussed on.
Our issues are a lack of team first mentality, which then becomes players getting caught with the footy (as people are focussing on me, rather than we) and the ball being delivered to contests, because why even care whether or not you kick it to your mates advantage, rather than just kicking it in his vicinity?
The game is simple. Hit targets = good footy. Collingwood showed us, all you have to do is compete hard, and then deliver the ball to advantage, and any opposition will soon be left powerless to stop you.
You still have to beat your opponent, and your best chance of doing that is when you are playing in the position where you perform the best! Not filling a hole in position that you are unfamiliar with!
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(05-04-2015, 08:30 AM)LP link Wrote:You still have to beat your opponent, and your best chance of doing that is when you are playing in the position where you perform the best! Not filling a hole in position that you are unfamiliar with! ahh, but what happens if you can learn another position and be better suited to it?
From memory Silvagni started a full forward too.
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(05-04-2015, 08:43 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:ahh, but what happens if you can learn another position and be better suited to it?
From memory Silvagni started a full forward too.
That's where the recruting and development should play a part; we should be able to assess what role a player is best suited to and work his butt off until he can play that role well. Of course, in the Hawthorn model, every player has to know and be able to play the role of any other player.
Silvagni was a ruck rover. Unless you mean SOS; I have a feeling that he played wing and/or halfback. The speccy he took when he did his knee was at halfback if I remember correctly :-\
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(05-04-2015, 08:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Yes they do.
Have a look at our clearances, specifically centre clearances. We win that every week. We just can't convert on the scoreboard.
If we get the ball out of the centre more than the opposition. Kick goals when we do. We win the game regardless of what happens down back.
Our clearances aren't translating to I50s though. It could be that opposition are allowing us clearances and attacking the receiving player as Geelong were a few years ago.
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(05-04-2015, 09:08 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Our clearances aren't translating to I50s though. It could be that opposition are allowing us clearances and attacking the receiving player as Geelong were a few years ago.
Our clearances aren't translating into very much at all  We seem to turn the ball over with a rushed kick or because there is no-one forward of the ball.
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