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Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??
Makes me sick this rubbish. They are basically trying to lever Lyon out of the team, despite the fact he started today's rout of Pakistan.

At the end of the game as the team was walking off the TV showed a close up shot of Smith and Warner side by side just as the crowd started chanting for Lyon. The look on their faces said a million words, like someone had stolen their chocolates! You can't hide that sort of involuntary response, and it says a million things about they way they think!

Earlier in the day you saw a concerted effort by Slater to boost O'Keefe's cause with Neville's demise as a side show, just minutes after Lyon had captured the key wickets. Warne responded in commentary aggressively defending the positions of Lyon and Wade and labelled O'Keefe a white ball cricketer. Slater demeanor shrunk, he had graphics and statistics ready to pump up O'Keefe's tyres and Warne deflated them before they even had a chance to run the graphic!  In the same break Chappell and Taylor tried to get Lehman to pot Wade and they failed.
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(12-30-2016, 08:36 AM)laj link Wrote:That was some win out of no-where. We've been alot better since Hobart.

Agar and O'Keefe have been selected for the next Test replacing Maddinson and Sayers in the 13 man squad.

Was a good win given the conditions, reckon Warner laid the foundation with his century and Smith/Starc were the icing on the cake.
Paki's fought it out in the last test but didnt show much fight or competitive nature in this one...Azhar excepted, he has one of the finest techniques in the game
and is a gun player. Australia really is a graveyard for spinners, Yasir Shah is highly rated but looks a buffet of rubbish when he bowls out here and has been disappointing.
Given how overseas spinners have performed I think Nathan Lyon gets harsh criticism and does as well as any other spinner who plays on Aus wickets....

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That was an amazing win considering the time lost to bad weather  :o

I think we desperately need a 5th bowler ... who can bat.  The question is whether we go for a medium pacer or a spinner, ie Cartwright or Agar.

While I think that commentators should be free to express their opinions, they should be informed, unbiased opinions, not shameless attempts to promote their favourites over more deserving cricketers.  Warney may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he calls it as he sees it and doesn't get involved in the bullshite that some of our ex-cricketers thrive on.
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(12-30-2016, 10:33 AM)DJC link Wrote:That was an amazing win considering the time lost to bad weather  :o

I think we desperately need a 5th bowler ... who can bat.  The question is whether we go for a medium pacer or a spinner, ie Cartwright or Agar.

While I think that commentators should be free to express their opinions, they should be informed, unbiased opinions, not shameless attempts to promote their favourites over more deserving cricketers.  Warney may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he calls it as he sees it and doesn't get involved in the bullcrape that some of our ex-cricketers thrive on.

Medium Pacer for me as the 5th bowler.....Aus wickets dont help the spinners enough....South African and English wickets help the seamers more as does NZ. Its really only India that helps the spinners and where you need a spinning allrounder IMO.
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(12-30-2016, 11:58 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Medium Pacer for me as the 5th bowler.....Aus wickets dont help the spinners enough....South African and English wickets help the seamers more as does NZ. Its really only India that helps the spinners and where you need a spinning allrounder IMO.

I think that's right EB but the commentators were emphasising the likely turn from the Sydney pitch.  Are they just pumping up O'Keefe's chances?

My preference is for a medium pacer who can maintain pressure on the batters - and score runs.
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I think Agar as we are playing in Sydney and then heading to India. We need our best team for the conditions.
O'Keefe is no certainty to see out the tour and at 32??? Is not getting any younger.
Wade is not up to it. Hasn't made the runs he was brought in to make. Not a great keeper and will be exposed in India.
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Agar in the 11 for Maddison.

We need an extra spinner for Sydney.
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(12-30-2016, 07:59 PM)sandsmere link Wrote:Agar in the 11 for Maddison.

We need an extra spinner for Sydney.

I agree, Agar over O'Keefe.  Lyon has to stay in, particularly as it's finally a decent spin friendly wicket for him to have a go on.  O'Keefe is the "safe" option, no future there.  Agar has the ability to bat 7, or maybe even 6 one day if he worked hard on the batting, depends on what he wants to prioritise.  He is an extremely gifted striker...he'd bat ahead of Wade atm.
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From what I'm hearing, one of the fast bowlers will be rested and Cartwright and another spinner will come in.

Lehman was quite outspoken in his assessment of Lyon as the best Aussie spinner and Smith gave strong support to Wade.  I reckon the latter has to make runs in Sydney though.
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Agree with Kevin Pietersen, Glen Maxwell should be in the test tsquad, pity he isnt in sync with the establishment and some of the key personnel because he is a very talented player. He got carried away with himself for sure and his attitude was that of a knob who thought he had made it but he deserves a second chance IMO and I'd be taking him to India.
Okeefe is a one day bowler IMO ...Agar is an unknown to me, clearly has talent but I hope the 20/20 game doesnt ruin his skills for test cricket...I'd be picking Agar ahead of Okeefe and using India as a training camp for him to improve his spin bowling..

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