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Smith will be welcomed back but Warner will only appear if we are going very poorly IMO...
re: The Pitch.....criticism is extreme , its not that bad IMO, our bowling is overated IMO, Hazlewood doesnt make batsman play enough, Starc is inconsistent with line and length and we have become too reliant on Lyon to get the big breakthroughs.
Quality bowlers get wickets on any pitches, if that was real quality like McGrath or Steyn on that pitch we would have seen wickets falling, Cummins showed if you bend your back, attack the batsman you can manufacture wickets.
Mitch Marsh is a plodder with the ball and while he kept the runs down he hardly troubled two good technical player like Pujara and Kohli......
We bowled like we expected them to fold up and make mistakes and paid the price with their new opener scoring some easy runs, I would have applied more pressure on him rather than serving up half volleys with a traditional field...Paine isnt a bad captain but needs to get more inventive than just bringing Lyon onto bowl when he wants a wicket.
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This pitch looks like its playing nicely now, was a bit low and slow for the first hour yesterday, presumably because they left extra water in it to combat the coming heatwave. The batsmen are driving confidently so it's coming on to the bat ok. I think its just a "thing" now to criticise the MCG pitch, after the debacle of last year. Wait until we see Bumrah and co bowl on it, I think there's plenty to work with. India will win by an innings and some
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12-26-2018, 11:55 PM
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(12-26-2018, 11:34 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Smith will be welcomed back but Warner will only appear if we are going very poorly IMO...
re: The Pitch.....criticism is extreme , its not that bad IMO, our bowling is overated IMO, Hazlewood doesnt make batsman play enough, Starc is inconsistent with line and length and we have become too reliant on Lyon to get the big breakthroughs.
Quality bowlers get wickets on any pitches, if that was real quality like McGrath or Steyn on that pitch we would have seen wickets falling, Cummins showed if you bend your back, attack the batsman you can manufacture wickets.
Mitch Marsh is a plodder with the ball and while he kept the runs down he hardly troubled two good technical player like Pujara and Kohli......
We bowled like we expected them to fold up and make mistakes and paid the price with their new opener scoring some easy runs, I would have applied more pressure on him rather than serving up half volleys with a traditional field...Paine isnt a bad captain but needs to get more inventive than just bringing Lyon onto bowl when he wants a wicket.
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The pitch has played normally, kept low and taken off like a rocket. A few balls doing that on the line of the stumps would have made life very interesting, but there have effectively been nothing on the line of the stumps! It's rubbish bowling, they are so over-rated because they all have highlight reels!
Watch what happens to our lot, the Indians will attack the stumps, they won't bowl bouncers outside leg stump or half-volleys a foot outside off!
Agree about Paine, and that catch wasn't so easy, the reason Haddin or Healy didn't drop those catches is because they wouldn't have tried for one that wide! Those mugs commentate from the cheap seats, they are all perfect after they have retired!
The only thing I agree about Paine this pitch is his fields are not quite right, Punter has that nailed. But why isn't Punter offering Paine free advice, you know as part of patriotism, instead of putting a hand out for an ACB spotters fee?
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Starc can't bowl two consecutive balls in the right spot. Doesn't build pressure.
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(12-27-2018, 12:29 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Starc can't bowl two consecutive balls in the right spot. Doesn't build pressure.
That's why so many think he's a waste of space in ODI or T20s!
On a suitable pitch in test cricket he is valuable because his good balls take wickets, no matter how rare they are!
Notice the commentators making excuses for Mitch Marsh, "looks sore", "limping", "hobbled", "not throwing freely", will Marsh bowl today?
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I expect M Marsh to bowl a LOT of overs today. Will take a miracle to win this Test from here, but if we bat well we can sneak out with a draw, in which case we need everyone in top shape for the back to back Test in Sydney. I'd be conserving Cummins and Starc, bowl lots of M Marsh, Hazlewood and Lyon
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Piss weak tactics from the Indians. Grind for two days at at a snail's pace, wear out the other mob in the heat then try to cash in. That's been their modus operandi for fifty years and why they can't win away.
Six sessions for 450 says you're not trying to force the game. Now they're relying on Australia to force the game, creating opportunities for their bowlers.
We need to bat smart, minimum six sessions, preferably all nine. Give'em back their own medicine. Bat time, runs will come and for goodness sake, don't try to force the rate. That's when wickets fall.
Great effort for Finch and Harris to hold out until stumps, first hurdle jumped... And a cheeky little bird back at ya.
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Yes Prof, it was India 101.
Very strange really - but again, maybe they were shocked by the carpy pitch too - which really is a blight on the MCC and Australian cricket - no excuses shiuld be accepted eg the "long term plan" - it's 2018 ffs.
How to turn the public (even more) off cricket - produce a pitch like this one....
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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Yep, the footy gods hate us but maybe the cricket gods will throw us a bone.
Bat an immense amount of time, thrash their bowlers then hang on in Sydney on a pitch that only suits one side One all. Hows them apples Virat?
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12-27-2018, 11:12 PM
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(12-27-2018, 09:52 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Piss weak tactics from the Indians. Grind for two days at at a snail's pace, wear out the other mob in the heat then try to cash in. That's been their modus operandi for fifty years and why they can't win away.
Yes it was like a time warp.
But having said that, did you notice as soon as the Bumrah and Sharma got out there the ball was swinging and moving sideways off the pitch. What happened when our lot had three new pills, not a deviation, even from the declared swing bowler Marsh and the supposed late swinging freak Starc!
Our lot might be good bowlers, but they are so far out of form it's not funny, and all we are hearing is that it's the pitches fault! Maybe not just out of form but over-rated! The pitched seemed to offer Sharma and Bumrah plenty, and Jadeja was turning the new ball plenty not that I'm blaming Lyon he just needs 10 new team-mates!
It's just too easy to stay in our test team, this culture of persisting with the squad no matter what is killing Australian cricket. They will have good patches when they are in good form, but those times are spread so thinly the majority of the time we will be sadly disappointed.
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