09-07-2022, 07:28 AM
(09-07-2022, 07:01 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Hmm. There's a few things I'd say, and you can correct me if I'm wrong :
1. I get the impression that your criteria for GOAT is basically number of slams ? If so, I think you need to look at more than that to even start a discussion.
2. I'm not sure words like "undisputed" have any place in the airy-fairy world of GOAT debates. I'm not at all sure that Rafa is the "undisputed" GOAT in current discussions.
3. It seems to me as though you are framing what you see in a way that supports your conclusions. You have the conclusion before you go out looking from what I can tell.
4. Your argument would, by logic, have to work both ways. If the "experts" are mostly saying Serena is the GOAT, then you saying otherwise may mean (following your logic with Mav) that you have some personal bias against Serena. It's not as though Mav is the only one who thinks this.
Mav is focusing on Court's personal aspects because he's making a point, which is that if you weaponize your faith in a way that harms others, then the gloves are off and you forfeit the right to be treated nicely. You will have to make up your own mind as to whether that's appropriate.
I think you've misunderstood what im saying and that can be due to how its been written.
The greatest of all time puts the score on the board. Whether or not they are likable is an extra dimension that isn't worth discussing and isn't something im necessarily interested in, but I believe others are.
Does that frame what im trying to say better and answer your question?
I dont see things in a way that supports my conclusions, I have drawn my conclusions from observing this behaviour.
"everything you know is wrong"
Paul Hewson
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