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Ajla Tomljanović vs America - LP - 09-03-2022
Well, if you have ever seen a one sided supporter base, crowd, commentators, et al., it was the Ajla Tomljanović game versus Serena.
Time stops for nobody, great career from Serena.
Great win by Ajla Tomljanovic, giant slayer.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Thryleon - 09-03-2022
Can't believe they call Serena the GOAT. Margaret court has her covered. This woke bullcrap can't erase peoples names on trophies.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - PaulP - 09-03-2022
Leaving aside the well known difficulties of comparing players / teams from different eras, I don't think the "woke crowd" has any interest in erasing names on trophies. Court gets criticized because she's a homophobic cow, with a selective and poorly contextualized reading of the Bible.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Thryleon - 09-03-2022
(09-03-2022, 11:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Leaving aside the well known difficulties of comparing players / teams from different eras, I don't think the "woke crowd" has any interest in erasing names on trophies. Court gets criticized because she's a homophobic cow, with a selective and poorly contextualized reading of the Bible.
Couldn't care less.
The scoreboard says court 24 grand slams, Williams 23.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Mav - 09-03-2022
She won 13 of her Grand Slam titles prior to the Open Era. Serena won all hers in the Open Era when prize money ensured all slams were hotly contested.
The other knock on Court is that she won 11 out of her 24 titles in Australia and 8 of those were contested only by amateurs. The distance and cost of travel thinned out the competition. Now, we are used to all the top players coming to the Aus Open as it offers the biggest prize pool but the Aus Open was the poor relation of the other slams until it moved away from Kooyong. There was even a time when serious consideration was being given to stripping the Aus Open of its Grand Slam status and giving it to the Italian Open.
I have no doubt Serena should be seen as the GOAT.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Gointocarlton - 09-03-2022
Comparing sportspeople from different eras is always a little subjective. Schumacher v Senna, Schumacher v Hamilton, never easy and there is always a bias. Strictly speaking, by definition of Grand Slams, Court has 24 Serena 23 so from that perspective only, technically Court is the GOAT even if she is seen as a shit person.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Gointocarlton - 09-03-2022
(09-03-2022, 11:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Couldn't care less.Tend to agree.
The scoreboard says court 24 grand slams, Williams 23.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - PaulP - 09-03-2022
(09-03-2022, 11:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Couldn't care less.
The scoreboard says court 24 grand slams, Williams 23.
The point I was making is that your invocation of "woke bullcrap" as the reason why some may choose Williams as the GOAT is questionable IMO.
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Lods - 09-03-2022
Does this mean some folks think Carlton aren't the GOAT
Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America - Thryleon - 09-03-2022
(09-03-2022, 09:48 PM)PaulP link Wrote:The point I was making is that your invocation of "woke bullcrap" as the reason why some may choose Williams as the GOAT is questionable IMO.why else would they dismissive the proverbial score on the board when it doesnt apply to other teams such as Carlton, Liverpool, Essendon, Collingwood.
The definition justifying Serena as GOAT should see Hawthorn lauded as the AFLs GOAT.