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[kruddler]

[quote author=DJC link=msg=428745 date=1729494395]
I suspect that she doesn't realise that she is making a goose of herself.  In fact, I'm sure that she is convinced that her performance today will have won her new supporters.

As a committed republican, it concerns me that her strident, undignified and ineffective protest will damage our cause.  It's a worry when our elected representatives don't seem to have the brains they were born with.

That's kind of my take too.
It's damaging the cause of republicans...and she's targeting the wrong bloke.
Now the monarchy and the republic are obvioulsy intertwined.
But Charles has said that the decision on a republic rests solely with the Australian people.
And that's how it should be.
I suspect he wouldn't be to worried to give us the flick, but still retain visitation rights.
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What is the benefit of keeping the status quo?

What is the drawbacks of 'leaving the nest'?

I can't see a whole lot changing

[Lods]

[quote author=Lods link=msg=428747 date=1729495497]


That's kind of my take too.
It's damaging the cause of republicans...and she's targeting the wrong bloke.
Now the monarchy and the republic are obvioulsy intertwined.
But Charles has said that the decision on a republic rests solely with the Australian people.
And that's how it should be.
I suspect he wouldn't be to worried to give us the flick, but still retain visitation rights.

What is the benefit of keeping the status quo?

What is the drawbacks of 'leaving the nest'?

I can't see a whole lot changing
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I think it will eventually.
Maybe not in my lifetime.
It will be a generational thing...although at the moment there still seems to be strong support for the monarchy amongst young Australians

Of course there is always the chance we'll be states number 51-56.  
Then I can be President  >

[Gointocarlton]

Does Lidia Thorpe not realise that when she makes a goose of herself that folks just see a goose
...and whatever message she is trying to convey is completely lost.

She is a complete and and utter moron who doesn't realise anything. She leaches a salary off the very system she protests against. There is something very wrong with our political system when imbeciles like that "represent" the public.

[Baggers]

She is a narcissist - completely absorbed in self-image.  In her world any news is good news.

Yep, sadly, through my biased mental health lens I see anger/narcissism issues... which are symptomatic of a number of ailments. She seems absolutely oblivious to the fact that she harms whatever cause she's advocating for. And she does indigenous folks no good at all, they should disown her.

[tonyo]

Like many other Senators who have gone 'independent' after getting elected on a mainstream party ticket - they actually think people voted for them, as opposed to the vast majority of voters who simply follow the how to vote cards, especially for the ridiculously long-winded senate ballot paper.

Personally, I think if a Senator decides they do not wish to belong to the party on whose ticket they got elected, they should resign and allow the party in question to nominate a replacement.

There have been a few good independent Senators (think Brian Harradine, Nick Xenophon), but they were elected under their own banner.

I bet the Greens regret the day they put Lidia onto their ticket......

[Gointocarlton]

Like many other Senators who have gone 'independent' after getting elected on a mainstream party ticket - they actually think people voted for them, as opposed to the vast majority of voters who simply follow the how to vote cards, especially for the ridiculously long-winded senate ballot paper.

Personally, I think if a Senator decides they do not wish to belong to the party on whose ticket they got elected, they should resign and allow the party in question to nominate a replacement.

There have been a few good independent Senators (think Brian Harradine, Nick Xenophon), but they were elected under their own banner.

I bet the Greens regret the day they put Lidia onto their ticket......

There are no consequences for bad behaviour. If I got up and ranted and raved at a work event, I'd be looking for a new job. Instead, they pander to morons like that in the name of free speech. She is a disruptive troublemaker who will go through her working life (paid by you and I) and achieve zero. She is dead set taking the piss.

[DJC]

Like many other Senators who have gone 'independent' after getting elected on a mainstream party ticket - they actually think people voted for them, as opposed to the vast majority of voters who simply follow the how to vote cards, especially for the ridiculously long-winded senate ballot paper.

Personally, I think if a Senator decides they do not wish to belong to the party on whose ticket they got elected, they should resign and allow the party in question to nominate a replacement.

There have been a few good independent Senators (think Brian Harradine, Nick Xenophon), but they were elected under their own banner.

I bet the Greens regret the day they put Lidia onto their ticket......

But that would require principles and a desire to do the right thing ?

Of course, our constitution is silent on political parties and we have to rely on conventions.

[Macca37]

When her term in parliament finishes it will be "Bye bye, Lidia".  She has a snowflakes chance in hell of being re-elected standing as an independent.

[DJC]

When her term in parliament finishes it will be "Bye bye, Lidia".  She has a snowflakes chance in hell of being re-elected standing as an independent.

Same as Senator Fatima Payman.  Her Australia's Voice is unlikely to get any representation in Parliament.

[Baggers]

For Lidia to be claiming she is representing 'her people' is just rubbish. If she understood the spirituality of Indigenous Aussies there is no way she'd behave in such a disrespectful, self-interested and self-aggrandizing manner.