AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

[Blue Moon]

Was somewhere where I couldn't watch the game. Checking the scores gave me little incentive to find some place where I could. Watched the last twenty minutes where Carlton took off every time they had the ball and I was left wondering why we don't do this all the time. Cincotta and TDK should have been in the starting twenty-two, Durdin and Fantasia should not have. Voss needs to change his coaching philosophy. He needs to believe in the talent and he needs to unleash the talent and stop picking names and unbalanced sides.

[tonyo]

No greater risk than taking out of form players into any game.

Indeed, and then the youngsters gain some invaluable experience for the years ahead, instead of gifting a finals game to hacks who may not even be at the club next year.

[shawny]

No.
But that's not what I would've done.

Keep hollands.

Choose any 2 smalls to go out.
I would've chosen durdin and fantasia to miss.

Tdk starts.
Moir is sub.

Cincotta comes in and cerra goes out.
Your last spot goes to either lord, carroll or binns. Probably Carroll but given he is likely to be going maybe go lord instead.

Ins: cincotta, moir lord/Carroll/binns
Outs: cerra, durdin, fantasia

We lose nothing from those changes but gain hope.

Do you really believe those changes would have made the difference in what was a smacking before our opposition clearly took the foot off our throat with nothing to gain. Its possible those changes see us lose by even more with the kids being scarred by a 15- 20 goal loss? Just because we will never know doesn't imply they are correct selections. The club needed to risk all to have any chance and when that fails of course you can argue what if they did this or that but the reality is we entered the finals in poor health and regardless who we picked as sub or at MC in this game we were cooked before the ball was bounced.

We need to be very active in the offseason and make a few ballsy decisions to improve on this year

[madbluboy]

CARLTON was meant to be going all in when it made six changes for Saturday night's elimination final, but the decision to pull back at the last moment and select Tom De Koning as the substitute ultimately cost them a winning hand.

The Blues were embarrassed in the first half of Saturday night's elimination final, conceding the first nine goals of the game and falling 60-points behind before they had even registered a score.

It shaped as the type of September loss that could scar a group, and De Koning was sitting on the bench waiting for his chance to make an impact until he was told to warm up early in the second quarter.

Injected into the game 11 minutes in, the 25-year-old was the reason Carlton was able to launch a mini-comeback either side of half-time, with the Blues kicking five unanswered goals and winning the second half by 20 points.

Through a quarter-and-a-half on the ground, De Koning had 10 influential possessions (seven contested) and was an immediately more effective and attacking option in the ruck. He had as many clearances as any teammate at the last change and was a crucial aerial presence down the line.

Ultimately, the Blues had to try something. Their 2-6 run to close the home-and-away season meant rolling into September in the same shape would have delivered the same results. The Blues were bold and rolled the dice. They should have gone all in when it came to De Koning.

[Lods]

No greater risk than taking out of form players into any game.

Yep,  it's about the same risk.
And once you make a decision it's set in stone, and you live and die on the result.
If you lose, the "I told you so"s will come for you.
That's the chance you take.

But no-one really knows what 'might' have happened had we gone another way.
It's just a guess.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

Maybe our mistake wasn't so much not playing some of these youngsters last night....but not giving them more game time through the year.
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The kids settled OK in the final couple of H&A games but finals are different.
We'll never know how they would have gone now, but it was probably as big a risk as playing underdone players...and the result may not have been much different.

YES! Absolutely this. More game time during the year - the few games they played showed they were eager and hungry. Exactly the qualities that were missing last night.

Can’t imagine the result would have been any worse but how valuable would such experience be going forward?

Completely disillusioned with the MC’s lack of imagination.

[Gointocarlton]

So lets take out the worst -Williams, Durdin, Motlop and Ollie Hollands.

Substitute them with Lord, Moir, Binns and Cincotta.

Do we win?

Not if we start with the pissweak intensity we started with last night.

[Gointocarlton]

60 -0, hardly went forward. Blame the small forwards.
Really???

Pittonet, Cripps, Cerra and Walsh got their butts kicked in that time. That was the ball game.

Glad you shot a few bambys this week, I wasn't game to.

[laj]

Do you really believe those changes would have made the difference in what was a smacking before our opposition clearly took the foot off our throat with nothing to gain. Its possible those changes see us lose by even more with the kids being scarred by a 15- 20 goal loss? Just because we will never know doesn't imply they are correct selections. The club needed to risk all to have any chance and when that fails of course you can argue what if they did this or that but the reality is we entered the finals in poor health and regardless who we picked as sub or at MC in this game we were cooked before the ball was bounced.

We need to be very active in the offseason and make a few ballsy decisions to improve on this year

Would have made quite a difference  win or lose. Some pace and run from blokes 100% fit would not have seen a 60 to nil start. We had blokes underdone and half fit that, for that reason, couldn't get into the game when it was hot. Fit blokes make a big difference. You have been following footy long enough to know that, surely.

[Lods]

Not if we start with the pissweak intensity we started with last night.

And that's the main reason we were in the pickle we were in.
Lack of intensity, lack of pressure, playing as individuals rather than a team (see some of the blame game stuff that was going on).
When we straightened those things up we looked a lot better.