AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

[kruddler]

The whole MRO-Report system has become a bit of a joke.
Either throw it back to the umpire and get rid of the MRO...or umpires don't report and if there's no vision, no incident.

It really doesn't matter what we think.
If the best evidence at the time is that it was reportable incident in the umpire's eyes, and there is no clearer vision available what position does that put the AFL in.

Do they back the umpire's call, and suspend or fine, or do they say ..."oh well we really don't have a clearer picture of what happened so you're probably mistaken umpire."

I think they give a fine (or even a suspended fine) and basically a smack on the wrist. Could fall under the 'unduly rough play' which is a catch all for things they don't like. Akin to 'bringing the game into disrepute', which is similar and catches non-football related issues as well.

[RiverRat]

Jack Silvagni was good this week, but I don't believe that level of output is sustainable. Freo are a little hit and miss, but certainly a step up from the Hawks.

Was getting great elevation in centre ruck contests - maybe the bye put some spring in his step.  IF he can keep doing that, he becomes a genuine option as a back-up ruck. 

An excellent game in other respects as well.

[PaulP]

Was getting great elevation in centre ruck contests - maybe the bye put some spring in his step.  IF he can keep doing that, he becomes a genuine option as a back-up ruck. 

An excellent game in other respects as well.

Yes. The bye is recent enough for him to still be fresh. But Darcy and Jackson are a whole other level, and close to the best ruck combination going around, and if neither De Koning nor Pittonet play, Silvagni will be spent by half time IMO. Darcy in particular will crash and bash with glee.

[shawny]

In the Hawks post match, Voss said both De Koning and Pittonet are a chance to be available for this game, but he seemed a little equivocal. One or preferably both will be essential IMO. Jack Silvagni was good this week, but I don't believe that level of output is sustainable. Freo are a little hit and miss, but certainly a step up from the Hawks. I'd expect the betting odds to be pretty close. A very 50/50 game for mine.

Agree. This is a step up from the last 2 soft wins and will tell us a lot more about where we are at.

Hope we don’t go back to defensive wide gameplan and we attack the game and have the courage to run the lines and move the ball quick. Do that and we should be ok.

Hope one of our rucks gets up as they are very strong in that area

Also it’s about this stage after we start thinking they are looking good that we hear a soft tissue injury to cunners or Martin.

Just saying.

[RiverRat]

The form of most players during the past two matches should justify a limited number of changes this week.

Other than Young, Ed Curnow and (maybe) Hewett, I doubt that any deserve to be omitted for sub-standard performances.

[kruddler]

The form of most players during the past two matches should justify a limited number of changes this week.

Other than Young, Ed Curnow and (maybe) Hewett, I doubt that any deserve to be omitted for sub-standard performances.

Agree.

I'd only make the 1 change and thats Pitto/TDK (whoever is deemed fit) for Young.
If Weiters gets suspended though, Young would get a reprieve.

I can't see us bringing in Dow, so Ed and George get to stay, but i'd swap roles with Ed starting sub.

[pinot]

Someone has to miss out if both Pitto and TDK are available.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Freo's small forwards usually stitch us up....eg Schultz has been a real pain over the last few seasons and they need attention.
Id like Newman on Walters but if my memory serves me right Saad has been loose on Schultz getting caught on the rebound and he either needs to curb his attacking ways or we find a more suitable lock down player, maybe Boyd can accept that challenge and make me warm to him...
Dont expect to win the ruck, in fact we will probably get flogged in the hitouts but its about our mids winning the clearances and influencing the result and for me its probably more the damage Darcy and Jackson might inflict when they rest forward than their ruckwork. Freo are workman like down back and have some decent defenders so it this wont be an easy game, really dont like Longmuir and his sulky demeanor and its about time we beat Freo at home....50/50 game for me and I'm hoping for a win rather than being overly confident.

[rocky]

Someone has to miss out if both Pitto and TDK are available.

Also Cottrell comes back, doesn't he? Logic dictates Ed HAS TO COME OUT.
Young under the pump and JSOS as always

[kruddler]

Someone has to miss out if both Pitto and TDK are available.

Yep. One of them, whichever one isn't fit enough.....because neither will be actually 100% fit.