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AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 07-02-2023
This is the late game this round, Sunday at 16:40 in Perth.
We're not on the box, and probably still ruckless. Lightning rarely strikes twice, even with the effort from Silvagni and Young.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Thryleon - 07-02-2023
We live and die on how jackson and Darcy play in this one. If we lose weitering it gets harder.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - pinot - 07-02-2023
What a game this one is turning out to be.
If our midfield keep up their form and get back one ruck we will be a threat.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Baggers - 07-02-2023
(07-02-2023, 10:30 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:We live and die on how jackson and Darcy play in this one. If we lose weitering it gets harder.
Very much doubt we'll lose Weiters... fine only... two open-handed forearms to the chest/shoulder of opponents. The second incident had plenty of mayo, BBQ sauce, sweat chili sauce and over-acting with throwing the head back (from the Dawks player).
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 07-03-2023
(07-02-2023, 11:18 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Very much doubt we'll lose Weiters... fine only... two open-handed forearms to the chest/shoulder of opponents. The second incident had plenty of mayo, BBQ sauce, sweat chili sauce and over-acting with throwing the head back (from the Dawks player).
Surely its an 'innocent until proven guilty' with Weiters.
I am yet to see any other angle apart from a blurry one from over 100m away which doesn't show anything.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - madbluboy - 07-03-2023
Walsh got decked after he disposed of the ball and was down for a while but have heard nothing of it.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Lods - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 12:00 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Surely its an 'innocent until proven guilty' with Weiters.
I am yet to see any other angle apart from a blurry one from over 100m away which doesn't show anything.
Doesn't that work against him to some extent though, because the umpire who was right there deemed it worthy of a report.
I have no faith in the system.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 12:13 AM)Lods link Wrote:Doesn't that work against him to some extent though, because the umpire who was right there deemed it worthy of a report.He said she said.
I have no faith in the system.
If the umpires word is all they've got to go on, i don't think thats enough.
What happens if they report him and then there is late evidence that showed there is nothing in it at all. AFL, and that umpire (our favourite - #22 Nathan Williamson?) become a laughing stock.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - PaulP - 07-03-2023
In the Hawks post match, Voss said both De Koning and Pittonet are a chance to be available for this game, but he seemed a little equivocal. One or preferably both will be essential IMO. Jack Silvagni was good this week, but I don't believe that level of output is sustainable. Freo are a little hit and miss, but certainly a step up from the Hawks. I'd expect the betting odds to be pretty close. A very 50/50 game for mine.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - Lods - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 12:17 AM)kruddler link Wrote:He said she said.
If the umpires word is all they've got to go on, i don't think thats enough.
What happens if they report him and then there is late evidence that showed there is nothing in it at all. AFL, and that umpire (our favourite - #22 Nathan Williamson?) become a laughing stock.
The whole MRO-Report system has become a bit of a joke.
Either throw it back to the umpire and get rid of the MRO...or umpires don't report and if there's no vision, no incident.
It really doesn't matter what we think.
If the best evidence at the time is that it was reportable incident in the umpire's eyes, and there is no clearer vision available what position does that put the AFL in.
Do they back the umpire's call, and suspend or fine, or do they say ..."oh well we really don't have a clearer picture of what happened so you're probably mistaken umpire."