Ajla Tomljanović vs America

[LP]

Well, if you have ever seen a one sided supporter base, crowd, commentators, et al., it was the Ajla Tomljanović game versus Serena.

Time stops for nobody, great career from Serena.

Great win by Ajla Tomljanovic, giant slayer.

[Thryleon]

Can't believe they call Serena the GOAT.  Margaret court has her covered.  This woke bullcrap can't erase peoples names on trophies.

[PaulP]

Leaving aside the well known difficulties of comparing players / teams from different eras, I don't think the "woke crowd" has any interest in erasing names on trophies. Court gets criticized because she's a homophobic cow, with a selective and poorly contextualized reading of the Bible.

[Thryleon]

Leaving aside the well known difficulties of comparing players / teams from different eras, I don't think the "woke crowd" has any interest in erasing names on trophies. Court gets criticized because she's a homophobic cow, with a selective and poorly contextualized reading of the Bible.

Couldn't care less.

The scoreboard says court 24 grand slams, Williams 23.

[Mav]

She won 13 of her Grand Slam titles prior to the Open Era. Serena won all hers in the Open Era when prize money ensured all slams were hotly contested.

The other knock on Court is that she won 11 out of her 24 titles in Australia and 8 of those were contested only by amateurs. The distance and cost of travel thinned out the competition. Now, we are used to all the top players coming to the Aus Open as it offers the biggest prize pool but the Aus Open was the poor relation of the other slams until it moved away from Kooyong. There was even a time when serious consideration was being given to stripping the Aus Open of its Grand Slam status and giving it to the Italian Open.

I have no doubt Serena should be seen as the GOAT.

[Gointocarlton]

Comparing sportspeople from different eras is always a little subjective. Schumacher v Senna, Schumacher v Hamilton, never easy and there is always a bias. Strictly speaking, by definition of Grand Slams, Court has 24 Serena 23 so from that perspective only, technically Court is the GOAT even if she is seen as a shit person.

[Gointocarlton]

Couldn't care less.

The scoreboard says court 24 grand slams, Williams 23.

Tend to agree.

[PaulP]

Couldn't care less.

The scoreboard says court 24 grand slams, Williams 23.

The point I was making is that your invocation of "woke bullcrap" as the reason why some may choose Williams as the GOAT is questionable IMO.

[Lods]

Does this mean some folks think Carlton aren't the GOAT

[Thryleon]

The point I was making is that your invocation of "woke bullcrap" as the reason why some may choose Williams as the GOAT is questionable IMO.

why else would they dismissive the proverbial score on the board when it doesnt apply to other teams such as Carlton, Liverpool, Essendon, Collingwood.

The definition justifying Serena as GOAT should see Hawthorn lauded as the AFLs GOAT.