AFL Rd 4 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Gold Coast

[Lods]

Cerra needs to contest better, pulled up short with the oncoming player think it was Weller and it's not good enough.

Saw that and thought at the time it was a poor effort.
It was kind of the tone for the day though...that hesitancy.
They wanted the ball more and attacked it better.

[LoveNavy]

I was a radio spectator again today. There were long periods where bugger all Carlton names were mentioned. I didn’t hear Plowmans name at all. Fisher, Fogarty, Cerra, Martin, Kennedy (?tag) Owies….. weren’t far behind.

Well I hope Adam Cooney got a reality check pfft…

Next week will be a real test of resilience. Port usually make us look amateurish. Although that’s particularly in SA. Hopefully being at home gives us an edge.

[rocky]

Having watched the VFL game prior to the shambolic effort of the seniors, I would suggest there could be several changes this week (if the selectors are worth their salt) and hopefully we welcome back Pitt and Durdin. Just a shocking effort today. Don't think I've dropped the "F" bomb during a game so much for a long time. Too many mistakes to mention. I would have rather have somehow got across the line today and drop next week against Port.

[shawny]

Massive step back to reality today. Several holes in the list which showed up today again and losing like that against what i think will be a bottom 4 team is a trait i was starting to think we are over. Obviously not!

Midfield was not desperate enough and defensively lazy and then to top it off we were sloppy with ball in hand. Forwards missed getable shots and blokes like Fisher, Martin, Setterfield just don't do enough to warrant their place in the team. I was so frustrated seeing Fisher run so hard in junk time and improve his stats - yet has no impact when the game is on. Setterfield lopes around with no urgency - this bloke is not at AFL standard and should be in the 2s.  If it wasn't for Doc and Saad today this would have been and absolute hammering.  McGovern is missed more then many think - Yes he is a glass man but when he is on the ground we are a better team and much better balanced defensively. If only his body could hold up for more then a few weeks in a row.  Time for Dow Stocker and Kemp to be given a decent run of games.

The club said they wanted respect from the footy world this year, well today was a backward step in that department too. Its a long season but next few weeks are massive for our season IMO.

         

[shawny]

Walsh is not running anywhere like it used too. I really hope we are not risking him.

Kennedy was horrible with the ball and even when the heat came off in the last he still coughed it up time and time again.

Williams i like but if you are going to be a accumulator then you just have to be clean - he shanked too many for my liking. 

Newman was undisciplined and too loose.

Really very few won their position when you really look at it.   

[laj]

Was a fan of Fisher but he isn't doing enough and Martins form since arrival has mirrored his time at Gold Coast.
Either injured or playing the odd good game but too many poor ones in-between.
Like his talent but he just doesn't deliver bang for buck..if Josh Honey was available I would have him in for Martin.
Dow deserves an opportunity with Cripps now injured and Stocker in for Boyd who is as trier but not a real close checking enough  defender.
Fisher and Setterfield both could be replaced also by a returning Durdin and Cottrell who has shown some form in the Magoo's.

Martin played well year 1 when he was getting near a front ended million bucks. Last 2 years, when he wage dropped he hasn't worked as hard.

[LoveNavy]

[member=54]shawny[/member]
“Really very few won their position when you really look at it”

No team will or should, trouble the opposition playing that way.

We were sleep walking q1 and never woke up for more than 5minute spurts. I was hoping that was part of our history. Seems not.

2’s were solid again. At least that gives me a little hope that pressure will elevate performances. Dow went off early and didn’t return. Hope he’s not injured ??

[LoveNavy]

Martin played well year 1 when he was getting near a front ended million bucks. Last 2 years, when he wage dropped he hasn't worked as hard.

Back to the VFL then

[Macca37]

Well, that was a reality check today.

If my memory serves me correctly, except for short periods  early in Kreuzer's career, we have not had a ruckman who could dominate a game since Madden retired in 1996.

This year has shown that an average ruckman such as Pittonet, or a "make believe" ruckman such as TDK or a "make do" ruckman such as Silvagni leave our supposedly good midfield exposed and found wanting when confronted by an average mid field and a dominant ruckman.

Today, like so many days in past seasons, as soon as our mid field struggles our defence can't handle the pressure, any system goes out the window, foot skills disappear, poor decision making becomes the standard, and we are well beaten.

Until we get a ruckman who can match it with the likes of Gawn etc, and give our mid field first use of the ball we are just dreaming about having a real impact on the top 4 spots.

[Mantis]

I saw the end result and didn’t see the game. Looks like it was ugly and the coach has some work to do. I hope the side didn’t lose it between the ears. I hope complacency didn’t give them hope before the first bounce.