AFL Rd 4 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Gold Coast

[LP]

Agreed.  We desperately missed McGovern’s closing speed and distribution.

Kennedy was also woeful today and if he wants to be taken seriously his best and worst can’t be that far apart.

Our work rate and positioning on transition wasn’t up to it again, so Voss has got his work cut out.

As I said, even in the 1st-Qtr against the Dawks we looked flat, for a team on a roll we were labouring across the ground.

The consistency is really the trick, making sure the lows aren't too low.

[Thryleon]

Observations.

We over possessed the aggot at times.

We continued trying to hit up a forward against the best defender on the day (Collins) rather than actually try and pick our way through an opposition defense.

Charlie and Mckay need to stop playing from behind so much.

Our mids actually did ok, but failing to capitalise on momentum in the middle part of the game (2nd and 3rd quarters) when we had it was really problematic.  Particularly Charlie and Harry missing key set shots.

There were some real face palm moments, and it appears as though the Suns used the tactic hawthorn did last week to beat us (big X for the coaching panel there).

Touk Miller probably reserves his best footy against us, which is quite telling of where we are at.  Not sure why you would go with Boyd over Dow as the medi sub, but Boyd is still very much an enigma.  He was better this week, but still not really up to it and will be an also ran.  I suspect for Dow to be out of favour again, he is halfway out the door.

[member=153]LP[/member] Fisher, Boyd and Fogarty are quick enough.  The issues are that we have a lot of blokes wasting the footy and choosing harder options than keeping it simple.

Ironically, our captain has ironed out this factor from his game, and has gone up a level, and the rest are all trying to do too much.  An additional side step, a fend off, too cute with the kick, biting off more than they can chew, etc.

[WASurfer]

Only taken a month but Voss gets to see first hand the sh#t we're capable of serving up....and more often than not, against teams lower on the ladder than us and in games we should win...think back to the game against North late last year.

Apart from the opening minute or so, it was another one of those Carlton games where, 10 minutes in, you could just see we weren't on at all. Back to the fumbling, poor skills, poor disposal. They have so many ordinary types who were just carving us up and running around unchecked in the forward line. Most of our best players were defenders, but who was on Rosas....kid has played about half a dozen games and made us look silly.

I'm a huge fan of the way Pittonet plays for us and it showed how important he is to us and the structure. TDK is a totally different sort of player and won a few taps but gets pushed off the ball too easily and isn't having any impact around the ground.

I've been one to defend Plowman at stages but he surely can't stay in that team....he's just a dumb footballer! The spoil on Kennedy when trying to mark was the "pinnacle" yesterday.

Setterfield might've got 20 possessions but mostly ineffective IMO. Similary, Fisher is another who hasn't really fired a shot this year and needs as a spell in the VFL.

Losing Cripps would've hurt but our contested ball and other 4 mids have been a highlight this year.....but not yesterday. Thrashed by Rowell, Anderson, Miller, Weller etc. Hewett was good but Kennedy hardly sighted and probably one of Walsh's poorer games...but hard to be critical of him given what he's done since his very first game.

Gone was the pressure, tackling and chasing that were a highlight in the first 3 games. Obvious question, but did they rock up just expecting to win? Would've thought we've been so sh#t in recent years that we don't get that luxury.

Hopefully Pittonet and Durdin are right to go next week.....they'll be in along with probably Stocker, Kemp, Dow. Outs will be Cripps for sure and likely Fogarty, Plowman, Setterfield and Fisher. I think Owies stays....he was poor yesterday but his role alongside Durdin has been good this year so deserves another chance.

[pinot]

Too many skill errors, poor decisions and lack of hunger. Watched the game again and midfield was comprehensively smashed.

It looked like an off day rather than the norm IMO. Some backsides need to be kicked but nothing radical based on one game. Like to see some changes, few players have been under performing since round one and give some boys in VFL that have been playing well a chance to shine. Dow, Kemp, Stocker, Parks.. Philp needs another week.

[tonyo]

What's going on with Sam Walsh?

He looks half the player he was last year.

[pinot]

What's going on with Sam Walsh?

He looks half the player he was last year.

A little bit out of form like half his team mates since last week. We have had 1 and half games of under performance and can't allow the rot to settle in. Coaches have a big job in front of them now

[LP]

A little bit out of form like half his team mates since last week.

The kids had almost zero pre-season compared to his compatriots yet he's got to the point he can compete, we should be lauding his performance not bagging his efforts.

It's mostly skills and reaction that have let him down, decision making in traffic and the like, little connection with team mates, getting in each others way, etc., etc.. That is typical because I bet he spent all his available training time catching up on fitness and the skills sessions got the kybosh.

At least his ordinary is still enough for some to give him a vote, if only we had a few more like that!

[Mav]

Sam Walsh's tightrope surgery hasn't left him vulnerable to further injury. He didn't come back too early. The ligament has been replaced by a plastic cord which won't strengthen over time. The trauma caused by the surgery itself would presumably be long gone.

As LP notes, the injury, surgery and recovery over a 4 week period has created a big hole in his preseason preparation. He had to focus on recovery rather than peak fitness and of course he had little opportunity to prepare via contested footy drills and preseason games.

Added to this, adjusting to the new ligament is a more gradual process that might take the remainder of the season. Cam Guthrie said that it took him a year:

Guthrie had about two weeks in a moon boot before progressing to light walking and running on the Alter G treadmill (weight-bearing treadmill) and finally running outdoors once the swelling and pain had subsided.

He began full training six weeks following surgery and played his first match at week eight.

Even still it took him the rest of the season to get back to full capacity, which included one-legged proprioceptive movement as part of the recovery process.

“For a good 12 months after the injury, doing a lot of one-legged exercises you could really tell the difference between the injured ankle and the good one,” he said.

“The biggest thing that impacted me after surgery was when I was kicking.

“I couldn’t really point my toe as firmly as I wish I could have. I’m a big believer in having a really firm foot when I kick and I couldn’t really do that movement to the best of my ability, but it got better slowly and I haven’t had any issues since.”

What is Syndesmosis? AFLPA in 2020

[Blue Moon]

What can you say. It is not like we haven't seen this movie before. Maybe we can move away from this Voss Gloss nonsense we have had in the media over the past few months. We are a better side than last year because we have three new quality players in the team who weren't there last year. Curnow, Hewett and Cerra. The first three weeks we had a pretty healthy list, this week with Cripps getting injured we seem to have had a few holes. Witts is a very good ruckman. I have just behind Gawn, Grundy and Natanui but playinmg for Gold Coast he doesn't get a lot of recognition. He is also the type of ruckman DeKonning will struggle against until his body matures more. We need small forwards who can kick goals. I might be a bit old fashion but I believe a forward who lays tackles and engages in pressure acts is good, but a forward who kicks goals is better. Durdin and Motlop would be good, Dow needs a chance as does Stocker while Mirkov could be interesting if Pittonet is not available.

[LP]

We need small forwards who can kick goals. 

I mentioned last week after the close shave that we had forgotten our Rnd 1 & 2 roots, because Charlie, McKay and SoJ had been so good we had become KPF focussed and we no longer looked threatening in the SF / Midfield brigade. Rnd 1 in particular it was the spread of goal kickers that got us the result, they focussed on BigH and Charlie, we kicked goals with the likes of Cripps, Kennedy, Owies, Cerra and Durdin, Charlie got goals acting as a rover. The last two rounds too much on too few and it makes us too predictable, other than Cripps the midfield do not look like getting the same number of scoring opportunities.

When we have more diverse scoring options, BigH, Charlie and SoJ get more genuine and pure one on one opportunities, not battling two or three opponents.

It's not unreasonable to understand how this comes about, McKay and Charlie are significant, but if we rely on them week in week out by the end of the season we will be losing more than we win.