CV and mad panic behaviour

[Mav]

Very funny Mav - i never realised you were so sensitive petal. Sorry  :

Hmmm ... I thought you were the one who did the “Look Mum, he’s hitting me routine”. Just pointing out I have higher standards than you, both in invective and when sorting credible information from BS.

[LP]

That study is 200 pages long, and I'd guess even if I did read it all, a fair whack would go over my head. Just reading the executive summary, it seems to focus on "children, adolescents and young adults of child bearing age". The first two are obvious enough, but what age group does the last category include ?

When you read lots and lots of these papers you get use to cutting through the padding and going to the specific claims that the conclusions are based on, they have to stand up in the math. But most of them come back to questionable sources like the Yellow Card or VAERS surveys, which is like polling the MCG exit crowd about Toowoomba Local Council Politics, sure some will know what you are talking about but the delirious remainder will just make it up!

Here is a nice (It stands up to scrutiny) critique of Dr HCQ's claim;
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/v...ccullough/

While infection tends to grant better immunity than vaccination most of the time, getting the disease is associated with a higher risk of death and health complications. Vaccines generate immunity in people while avoiding the risks associated with the disease itself. The amount of spike protein generated by COVID-19 vaccination is too low to cause damage.

[capcom]

And the real culprit escapes scrutiny again ... China. 

[ElwoodBlues1]

Variety is the spice of life, there is burgeoning evidence cross vaccination might provide the best response of all. Resilient systems have redundancy built in either by accident or by design.

What is the technology of the Novavax based vaccine solution?

Have you been vaccinated [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member] , what is your personal stance on this issue?

I'm no scientific expert but the Novavax is based on older proven technology that was used to design the Hep B vaccine and the Pertussis vaccine. Reported Trials have shown it to be more effective with less side effects but again those trials would be small in numbers and you would need to look at age groups for effectiveness/side effects etc.
While being based on older technology it has the advantage of whats known in the business world as a late start so they have had a chance to look at the other vaccines and learn a bit more about how they have fared.
Have I been vaccinated?....No...Will I get Vaccinated?....Yes...when I think there is a vaccine/s that suits my criteria, needs and more data available to make that choice. Never been one to follow the herd especially especially when politicians with agendas are directing the traffic...
Hopefully the Novavax is that vaccine but I'm sure if it as superior as being marketed that ScoMo and friends will be saving it for themselves before it filters down to the plebs...

[LP]

I'm no scientific expert but the Novavax is based on older proven technology that was used to design the Hep B vaccine and the Pertussis vaccine. Reported Trials have shown it to be more effective with less side effects but again those trials would be small in numbers and you would need to look at age groups for effectiveness/side effects etc.
While being based on older technology it has the advantage of whats known in the business world as a late start so they have had a chance to look at the other vaccines and learn a bit more about how they have fared.
Have I been vaccinated?....No...Will I get Vaccinated?....Yes...when I think there is a vaccine/s that suits my criteria, needs and more data available to make that choice. Never been one to follow the herd especially especially when politicians with agendas are directing the traffic...
Hopefully the Novavax is that vaccine but I'm sure if it as superior as being marketed that ScoMo and friends will be saving it for themselves before it filters down to the plebs...

[member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member]‍

So do you want the truth, or would you prefer to stick with your beliefs?

Can you define what qualifies as the highlighted part?
Will I get Vaccinated?....Yes...when I think there is a vaccine/s that suits my criteria, needs and more data available to make that choice.

[ElwoodBlues1]

So do you want the truth, or would you prefer to stick with your beliefs?

What would your version of the truth be?

[flyboy77]

And more positive research on Ivermectin....

https://bird-group.org/official-ivermect...ats-covid/

[Baggers]

Your tackling is about as innocuous as most of our current players. Sadly.

If it was so 'innocuous' why did you arc up so?

An important distinction. What Wingman MAV pointed out -- Epoch/Falon Gong/Qanon -- in response to your point of argument was to question the sources of your information. That is NOT playing the man, that is playing the ball.

You referred to Wingman MAV as 'petal' - that is condescension, which is personal, which is playing the man.

[flyboy77]

We can't take anything offered by Dr Peter "HCQ" McCullough seriously, he's been discredited repeatedly for the last six months with every formal large scale study showing his original paper is worthless, at least in a scientific context, politically perhaps the paper is quite valuable when much of your funding comes from the certain right wing sources.

And yes, an R[sub]0[/sub] = 7.0 is about a magnitude more infectious than R[sub]0[/sub] = 2.5, so actually worse than 3x, the 3x Macron allegedly states, well maybe that a lost in translation moment, the question is was that a mistake on Dr HCQ's part of deviously manipulated for political purposes?

His original study?

This?

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-934...2/fulltext

Show me where it's been canned, debunked whatever.....

You're just making stuff up again.....

[flyboy77]

If it was so 'innocuous' why did you arc up so?

An important distinction. What Wingman MAV pointed out -- Epoch/Falon Gong/Qanon -- in response to your point of argument was to question the sources of your information. That is NOT playing the man, that is playing the ball.

You referred to Wingman MAV as 'petal' - that is condescension, which is person, which is playing the man.

Where did I arc up?

That article by Abir Ballan has been published widely in many different places (she has a Masters in public health and a background in public health, psychology, and education). - none of you has even once referenced any of the content. Not once.

The obfuscation by tying it to Falon Gong or Qanon or whatever is ludicrous.

Petal, condescension is Mav's middle name....fair crack.