Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

[JonHenry]

LOB was a fantasy selection at pick 10, Fisher tackles fine and is built like a baby whippet...lets be brutally honest LOB doesnt like contesting or tackling and we are not good enough to afford
players who like to sit on the outside looking for a cheapie and lose interest when its their time to tackle.

;D ;D ;D

[townsendcalling]

Maybe they all had the flu? 

I say that tongue in cheek, however our no. 2 wears his heart on his sleeve and gives his everything, JSOS, was as inept and ineffectual as all the others.

Are you referring to Dow as No2? In terms of Jack Silvagni, I thought he was one of our very few contributors and continued his 2019 improvement. 

[Micky0]

Are you referring to Dow as No2? In terms of Jack Silvagni, I thought he was one of our very few contributors and continued his 2019 improvement.

No sorry I meant our no2 in heart (cripps being no1!)

I meant Jack

[Lods]

I have a positive.
We were lucky they didn't kick straight

[Jack Burton]

I have rarely seen a midfield beaten so comprehensively as ours was beaten today. And they didn't have Ward and Coniglio. We have very serious midfield problems that need to be addressed. We are way off the pace

[JonHenry]

Heaven forbid we don't want to see anything happen  to Cripps, but it does throw another element into any evaluation of the process.

How much are we actually developing in the rest of the list if we are so reliant on him
He makes the players around him better , stand a little taller, and if he's curtailed we seem very, very ordinary.

I said at the start of the year, we need to get him out of the midfield for periods.
Someone asked why would you take your best midfielder out of the middle.

The answer is to develop multiple players and make us harder to play against.

The Hawks always had multiple avenues to goal even when Dunstall was at his best.
St Kilda relied mostly on Lockett

[ElwoodBlues1]

I have rarely seen a midfield beaten so comprehensively as ours was beaten today. And they didn't have Ward and Coniglio. We have very serious midfield problems that need to be addressed. We are way off the pace

Totally agree, we need a couple of experienced bigger midfield bodies to help Cripps, Setterfield is a newbie kid learning the game and Kennedy has been injury prone.
and while he has been in the system a while is still finding his feet as a regular senior player.

Maybe more than small forwards we need a Marlion Pickett and Jye Bolton in the mid season draft who can help Cripps and give us some cover while Setterfield and Kennedy establish themselves.

[Jack Burton]

I'm wondering if it is time to think outside the square. There are so many of us that have had enough, we're over it, time to do something different. We are so terribly deficient in the midfield, let's do something about it. At current ladder positions we'll end up with picks around 13 and 19. We desperately need mature, quality mids. We have an excess of key forwards (McKay, C Curnow, McGovern, Casboult, Kerr). Who could we get for say C Curnow plus pick 13? McGovern plus pick 19? I'm sick of losing, get some players in next year who can play

[JonHenry]

Totally agree, we need a couple of experienced bigger midfield bodies to help Cripps, Setterfield is a newbie kid learning the game and Kennedy has been injury prone.
and while he has been in the system a while is still finding his feet as a regular senior player.

Maybe more than small forwards we need a Marlion Pickett and Jye Bolton in the mid season draft who can help Cripps and give us some cover while Setterfield and Kennedy establish themselves.

Kennedy has been playing 2s
E Curnow on a flank

Bolton prefers the bigger bodies of Fisher, SPS and Dow

Jack did ok in the third when in the middle

The coach is wasting valuable development time

Maybe Shorten could give him a new plan

[Lods]

I said at the start of the year, we need to get him out of the midfield for periods.
Someone asked why would you take your best midfielder out of the middle.

The answer is to develop multiple players and make us harder to play against.

The Hawks always had multiple avenues to goal even when Dunstall was at his best.
St Kilda relied mostly on Lockett

I remember Raydan mounting an argument for Judd stepping away from the mid-field to let Paddy Cripps develop in a similar way.
I argued against it at the time thinking it was better for the young player to watch a champion at close hand.....but once Judd went out of the side Cripps stepped up very quickly.

https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2167.0

The problem is we would probably have further short term pain while the young guys developed.
Can the club and coach afford that at this time.